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Crawling Across Chaos and Time Without End
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Crawling Across Chaos and Time Without End
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Pre-ScriptComments are now closed on this posting as Google Treasure Chest is dead.
IntroductionThis is a follow up to my post the other day, google-treasure-chest-its-a-scam-and-a-half. In that post I mentioned that one of the image servers had left indexing open. This is at http://bsadn.pantherssl.com The folders on my website, strangely perfect dot teevee, if I’ve done it right, cannot be viewed in the ‘explorer’ view. It’s a simple switch in the .htaccess file and is used to stop people (easily) browsing your folder structure on the web server. Fortunately for me, they haven’t done it, and because I now have links pointing back to that site, I thought I’d collate a list of websites and businesses that are visible there before they (probably) close this porthole. The list is very revealing as it’s shows a commonality of source for the images used in the various scams mentioned by myself in the above post and all the other commenter’s and other sites’ work that I’ve linked back with. It means that if you see a website here, it’s from the same scam source as GoogleMoneyTree in all it’s various incarnations. However, and in a sentence cunningly designed to protect myself just like the GoogleTreasureChest one, I’d like to take the opportunity to say:
So here is the list of main folders with a few sub-ones included to show you the breadth of the scheme. ListAccuquote This is the bulk that I’ve found. Obviously if you are decent company or person and believe in the axiom that “a man is judged by the friends he keeps” – I should pull your files out pronto. Each folder usually contain lots of sub-businesses and extra images and sub-campaigns, either planned or defunct. That I can’t tell. However, most of this stuff is clearly related and in the old days I’d class them as fairground amusements. That is, it’s almost wholly a bunch of card sharps and snake oil sellers – but under the modern guise of slimming aids, other dubious medicaments, and get-rich-quick schemes. Amazon Related:
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Those all look like offers on CPA (cost per action) advertising networks. These can pay up to $40 per ‘lead’ (example of a lead would be someone paying the $1.99 for the Google Treasure Chest Trial or a ‘Free’ trial of Acai berry etc.
As they are forking out between $30 and $40 per lead plus an override amount to the CPA network, clearly the only way the companies offering the trial can make a profit is if someone is hit for the monthly rebiling charge – hence the hidden continuity, tiny print, amount written out instead of in numbers, difficulty in contacting them to cancel, etc etc…
And they can get thousands of people to sign up by lying about what they offer with false claims “earn $5000 per month posting links on Google”, “loose weight with Acai pills” etc,..
How this affiliate > cpa > scam company triangle all works is explained quite well in the comment on this post http://wafflesatnoon.com/2009/01/20/the-fake-diet-girls/ made by “tons of affiliates promote this way…” says..[March 26th, 2009 at 12:47 pm] but basically someone joins one of these CPA networks and promotes the ‘offers’ for a payout per lead. Now some of the people doing this are clearly not too honest and ethical (or even legal) in their marketing methods (hence all the fake blogs); the actual offers are also not very honest in their marketing methods (hence the hidden or almost hidden forced continuity and the monthly payments being charged 7 days after purchase (usually before the trial product or cd even arrives). And then the CPA advertising companies are clearly not too fussy about who they accept as clients and some even encourage their affiliates to use ‘blackhat’ methods.
So we have 3 layers of dishonesty – affiliates, the actual company behind the scam and the CPA ad agency in the middle. But all 3 make lots of money and the losers are all the people who get scammed. Clearly where there is lots of money to be made ethics and morals go out the window and both affiliates and cpa ad agencies / networks are guilty of helping these scams to grow and thrive…
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Thanks for that breakdown and the insight and extra work.
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I also found a reference to bsadn.pantherssl.com/ in the images folder of this stunningly designed website:
http://sendmeyourmoneynow.com/
http://sendmeyourmoneynow.com/images/bsadn.pantherssl.com/offer_images/
The sendmeyourmoneynow.com also appears to summarize the business formula of Google Treasure Chest et al:
1. Make a website
2. Convince others to send you money in exchange for mystical knowledge
3. ?????
4. PROFIT!
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Interestingly the domain pantherssl.com appears to be registered to Panther Express who seem to be a ‘legit’ company with offices in the US, Paris and London:
Whois Record
Registrant:
Panther Express
40 West 20th Street
Sixth Floor
New York, NY 10011
US
Domain Name: PANTHERSSL.COM
http://www.pantherexpress.net/about/
West Coast 130 Rio Robles
San Jose, CA 95134
+1 408.228.3700
France 8, rue de l’Isly
75008 Paris
+33 (0) 1.75.43.81.92
UK One Alfred Place
London
WC1E 7EB
+44 (0) 203.355.1115
The plot does indeed thicken…
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Yay Not Kevin. You’ve been busy.
I checked out the link – the cheesy grin? ….funny as f**k.
The panther thing just seems to be somewhere to store images and css files with a few extra things in as well. It looks like the whole directory has just been copied across and then the next ‘member’ as they call them, makes their own website from a selection. A bit like perm 10 from 100!
It’s so funny to see the ‘rules’ just listed – because that’s EXACTLY what it is!
I’ll check it all out later today when I’m off this locked-down public computer. That London Panther address is interesting ….
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I think it’s just a little office.
In the meantime, well done and keep up the good work! The plot has indeed turned from a thin soup to a medium consomme. I can’t wait for the stew… I guess it’ll finish off as pure stodge.
One bad thing, from my personal viewpoint, is to do with the real Google ads I carry on this website. Because of the ‘intellisense’ and ’self-optimising’ nature of the links, I’m now getting scoundrel links on my pages…. This does not look good for me! Within the Google Adsense admin pages I can block ads from certain sites – and there’s a certain amount of ‘wild-card-ness’ I could do. But the trouble is the varying nature of these scam sites. There are so many it’s impossible to block them out.
Now I’m loath to take down the ads as the few clicks people make helps with the hosting costs etc, so I’d just like to say to anyone reading this:
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Yes sendmeyourmoneynow.com/ is quite amusing with the cheesy grins, Zimbabwe 10 million dollar bill, web design from hell and the ‘4 step formula’. Perhaps it’s a self parody by the scammers? :)
If it disappears there should be a cache of it. I found it by googling bsadn.pantherssl.com
Some of the other pages are erm ..interesting:
http://sendmeyourmoneynow.com/bgp/
http://sendmeyourmoneynow.com/money/
http://sendmeyourmoneynow.com/seo/
By the way. ‘Waffles’ had the same problem with dodgy adsense ads:
http://wafflesatnoon.com/2009/03/25/what-about-ad-201/#more-567
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Haha, I own sendmeyourmoneynow.com! I assure you, it is most certainly a parody, and not something to be taken seriously in any fashion. The site is my way of exposing internet scams for what they truly are :)
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@Dan
I’m sorry – I never did get round to looking at you closer! It’s pretty obvious that the joke’s on us!
As bsadn.pantherssl.com have now locked down their folders, it appears that you are actually a good resource for the FTC folks (and anyone else) who wants to see the connections between the various scams. Some of them, I’m sure, are connected to this dodgy US ISP 3FN etc, who’ve just had their plug pulled by the FTC. http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2009/06/3fn.shtm
I checked out the address of the place and I can’t be absolutely certain, but I’m sure it was one of the places I checked on when setting up my three email honeypot addresses. I didn’t write everyone down as there were so many, but I did check a lot of StreetView, just to gauge my ‘enemy’, if you like, and my visual memory of places is very, very good. It’s here:
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Wow, I knew these folks were scammers, but I had no idea it was this bad! I copied their site to grab some of their ridiculous ads; I’m happy to leave the files up if it is of benefit to anyone :)
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@Dan
I’ll see about copying your files to this site as well. In combo with the folder list I made above, it makes interesting reading for anyone who’s waded through half a dozen of these websites, just to see exactly the same graphics and text all grouped into one place.
This is the point when it dawned on me the insidious and all-encompassing nature of these websites, then, when coupled to the mailing lists, it becomes obvious that we are all just sheep to be shawn, and, WE provide the means (the physical structure of the internet) for them to shear us!!! WE also provide the means for them to block up everyone’s mail servers with crap as well, which slows down the whole web for everyone, and it’s speed that WE are all paying for! Sometimes we may as well be on dial-up!
And don’t get me started on the crap malware that blocks everything and the botnets. As with the Kevin Bacon effect, there are not many hops from a scammer in UTAH to a Russian mafia guy in St Petersburg.
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Our old friend bsadn.pantherssl.com is back
Clicked on the link to Easy Google Profit from this fake news story: http://www.businessgazette.net/finance/article-3910/ and about 6 different sites are loaded through some javascript thing including yoursearchprofits.com seofromhome.com bsadn.pantherssl.com and a few others.
When you view the source code you get:
SEO Google Cash Club
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@Not Kevin
I think they’re getting fed up with us looking at the source code to see where they are!
What it is, I think, is code obfuscation. I recently implemented a similar thing on this website to hide people’s email addresses from robots. A human can see it, but a robot will need to waste a lot of processing power and time to crack the code and get out the real information. You can see the plugin here http://www.weaselhat.com/phpenkoder/ It’s all open source based on BSD work. If I type an email address, hopefully, you can check the page or selection source (if using Firefox) and see the phpEnkoder plugin in action. It woreks on pages, posts and comments, I hope! ha ha.
The results should be very similar to the code you’ve found:
-obviously, it’s not real!
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Comments are now closed on this posting as Google Treasure Chest is dead.
However, the problem has not gone away – the menace continues.
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[...] cloned scam/ripoff websites purporting to be work-at-home business ‘opportunities’/ http://strangelyperfect.tv/3126/drill-down-through-bsadnpanthersslcom/#comment-1095 Comments are now closed on this posting as Google Treasure Chest is dead. However, the problem has [...]
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