Comments on: Cause and Effect in Deaths of Six Teenagers in Melton Mowbray Crash http://strangelyperfect.tv/464/cause-and-effect-in-deaths-of-six-teenagers-in-melton-mowbray-crash/ This is Our World Tue, 07 Feb 2012 16:55:47 +0000 hourly 1 By: Vanessa http://strangelyperfect.tv/464/cause-and-effect-in-deaths-of-six-teenagers-in-melton-mowbray-crash/#comment-4479 Vanessa Fri, 11 Feb 2011 18:30:07 +0000 http://strangelyperfect.tv/?p=464#comment-4479 Thank you for this post! It is very great to hear about this kind of story, so people can learn from it. It is amazing that the father blames the cops for taking his child's car, when he was the one driving without insurance. Thank you for this post! Even though it is a devastating story, it can teach people a lot. <a href="http://www.automedics.com/"> Auto Repair San Mateo </a> Thank you for this post! It is very great to hear about this kind of story, so people can learn from it. It is amazing that the father blames the cops for taking his child's car, when he was the one driving without insurance. Thank you for this post! Even though it is a devastating story, it can teach people a lot.

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]]> By: Strangely http://strangelyperfect.tv/464/cause-and-effect-in-deaths-of-six-teenagers-in-melton-mowbray-crash/#comment-587 Strangely Sun, 13 Jul 2008 22:17:50 +0000 http://strangelyperfect.tv/?p=464#comment-587 This article in the MOS website, <a href="http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/news/article-1033924/Pictured-Teenage-mother-friends-killed-head-crash-38-ton-lorry.html">http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/news/article-1033924/Pictured-Teenage-mother-friends-killed-head-crash-38-ton-lorry.html</a> has some extra pictures from other angles of the crash site. (there are also personal stories and comment but I won't mention them here) They clearly show that the Salvesen's wagon was on the correct side of the road when braking commenced. The artic stopped in a distance about two to three times it's own length, i.e. 13.6m x 2.5 which is about 35m. The ABS on the trailer was working as can be seen from the pulsed brake marks on the road which have been chalked out by the investigators. The car left no brake marks on the road that I can see from any picture. Either the driver didn't brake for some reason or the brakes were crap. It probably didn't oversteer or weave down the road either due to the lack of the characteristic thin crossover skids that happen in such circumstances. To me it looks like the overloaded car was speeding on the wrong side of the road and the driver was inattentive The lorry driver tried to brake and take avoiding action just as the car attempted some corrective steering action. The impact of the car with the lorry's engine decelerated the unit part of the vehicle so much that it's dislocated the cab from it's mountings. Amazingly, the artic steered pretty straight after impact, pushing the car along the road as evidenced from the debris. The lorry driver wearing his seat belt would be thrown forward, pushing the brakes even harder and the distortion in the cab brought the steering wheel in contact with his chest, hence his injuries. Everything is cause and effect. This article in the MOS website, http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/news/article-1033924/Pictured-Teenage-mother-friends-killed-head-crash-38-ton-lorry.html has some extra pictures from other angles of the crash site. (there are also personal stories and comment but I won’t mention them here)

They clearly show that the Salvesen’s wagon was on the correct side of the road when braking commenced. The artic stopped in a distance about two to three times it’s own length, i.e. 13.6m x 2.5 which is about 35m. The ABS on the trailer was working as can be seen from the pulsed brake marks on the road which have been chalked out by the investigators.
The car left no brake marks on the road that I can see from any picture. Either the driver didn’t brake for some reason or the brakes were crap. It probably didn’t oversteer or weave down the road either due to the lack of the characteristic thin crossover skids that happen in such circumstances.
To me it looks like the overloaded car was speeding on the wrong side of the road and the driver was inattentive The lorry driver tried to brake and take avoiding action just as the car attempted some corrective steering action.
The impact of the car with the lorry’s engine decelerated the unit part of the vehicle so much that it’s dislocated the cab from it’s mountings.
Amazingly, the artic steered pretty straight after impact, pushing the car along the road as evidenced from the debris. The lorry driver wearing his seat belt would be thrown forward, pushing the brakes even harder and the distortion in the cab brought the steering wheel in contact with his chest, hence his injuries.

Everything is cause and effect.

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