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More on Google Profits and Pacific Webworks

15th July, 2009 · Posted in Bad Web
What a tangled web we weave...

Oh What a tangled web we weave...

Oh What a tangled web we weave…

Back on May 1st I checked out this particular morph of the Google Money Bollox Kit Chest Scheme Plan…  See here.  I just had to show it because of the naff spelling and wordage, plus the inconsistencies in the text and graphics, and company name changes.

Normal

Of course, I’ve now realised that this is all totally normal and is done on purpose to keep Propellor heads busy..  At the time, the penultimate link in the chain of signing up, was:

https://secure0.s3curehost.com/gonb/?offer=go_11_nb&nb=114091&id1=&session-id=0e3fa44ed2cec48b7b1a2d7787929e9d

Propellor Head

So I thought I’d check if it still worked, it being a “secure” connection with session ID, and myself having been through several incarnations of Firefox as well as frequent cache and cookie clearances….

Copyright © 2009 Google Profits™

Well I was still laughing at the dinky trademark sign when I fired up (in)s3curehost dot com.  They obviously consider it something worth protecting!

Work from home with google

Work from home with google

You’ll not be surprised to know that s3curehost.com still exists (so much for security and session IDs?).  I’m actually surprised, in a small way, that they still keep pumping this stuff out. A Whois shows that  s3curehost.com is “IntelliPay, Inc.” a.k.a. “Pacific WebWorks, Inc.” who we’ve already looked at in Salt Lake City on the original Google Treasure Chest – It’s a Scam and a Half posting.

The “Google Profits” web-page has changed slightly, but the incompetent spelling and characteristic inconsistency is reassuringly still there!

It’s to good…  Earn $978 a day… Google Profits – eAuction, which one is it?

I left my “qualifying” to another day, so I haven’t found out if I’m ‘eligable’ yet.

Pacific Web Works

Pacific WebWorks, Inc.

Pacific WebWorks, Inc.

There are two things of note about this business, apart from the “Microsoft Certified Partner” logo. [added 26/10/2009: Matt at scamtimes.com has checked out the claim to be valid here in this comment below. However, it seems very easy to get this 'logo' certification.]

  1. The phone number at the contact page here: http://www.pacificwebworks.com/contact_pweb.htm, which is:
    230 West 400 South 1st Floor
    Salt Lake City, UT 84101

    phone: 801-578-9020
    fax: 801-578-9019
  2. It’s business is an integrated solution for other internet based businesses – my description(SP).

At first glance it’s a normal business for this line of work.  Here’s what they say about themselves and their custom  software suite:

  • They have “assembled a staff of professional trainers, coaches and support specialists”
  • They have “built a state-of-the-art data center” which takes “care of everything, including hosting, manpower, and technical details”
  • They provide “Tools for creating, managing and maintaining a web site”.
  • They provide “Electronic business tools, including storefront hosting, shopping cart and Internet payment systems.”.
  • They provide “Internet Marketing tools, including automated customer database, survey, and e-mail marketing tools.”.
The Plot Thickens

The Plot Thickens

So far so good.  And the database – that must be where all the contacts are kept, securely, private?

Now check that telephone number again.  It was the 9020 that did it! Like primeval intelligence, it’s come back from the depths of my mind.

It’s listed as the main contact point for Google Treasure Chest, etc, many times.  See here and here for two of my posts.  Now check this google search for the phone number 801-578-9020.

There are 1780 results, nearly all are complaints about being ripped-off or scammed.

Another word for rip-off or scam is the legal term, theft.

Conclusion

Chain link

Like links in a chain

Pacific Webworks are still in business – in fact, business is booming and they are reported to be in the top 40 Utah companies!  (http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/pacific-webworks-receives-recognition,890942.shtml).  I’m not sure who this lot are doing the reporting, but I can guess the connections…(added 3/3/10: Link to Earth Times removed.  This ‘business’ contains several puffs for PWW.  Like most dodgy websites, it’s domain WHOIS is hidden, by Domains by Proxy, again! - SP)

What a tangled web we weave...

What a tangled web we weave...

This industrial resource, http://resources.bnet.com/topic/pacific+webworks+inc..html, shows that the company had sales >$9m last year for its 34 employees. This is very interesting!  The same source shows, on this page, that profits are doubling at the company this year.

This is good news for all the people ripped off by Eborn et al.

Because the company, having exactly the same phone number as the main protagonists in the Google Treasure Chest scams, now cannot fail to be connected by the FTC in their investigations and imminent court cases.

And from what I recall from the closure of the call centre, is that 200 employees lost their jobs.  This is the same call centre that had 801-578-9020 as the contact number!  It was people working at the call centre who said that 200 people worked there(see http://www.topix.net/forum/source/fox13now/T28A5BU37IS57DC8C/p3).

Weakest Link

You are the Weakest Link - Goodbye!

So there isn’t just a partial business relationship between Pacific Webworks and one or more plaintiffs mentioned in the FTC charges, they are intimately connected.

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  1. Thanks @Not Kevin
    This looks (because the Florida AG says that it’s a civil case) that this is some sort of class action to me. See what happens then….
    I see that two of the companies listed are from Clearwater, Florida. I picked up some shack address there back in August last year, here:
    http://strangelyperfect.tv/5612/mybookface-google-utah-and-nevis-scamboys-united/

    I wonder if they’re related? The Florida AG has two different addresses for these “businesses” here:
    http://www.myfloridalegal.com/lit_ec.nsf/investigations/468B2CA5B9D8F022852576500063C5D3
    and here:
    http://www.myfloridalegal.com/lit_ec.nsf/investigations/87E6CBBEB10F58A18525768600755159

    But for me, the similarities in online name and physical locations are too close to ignore, after all the Google Bollox we’ve had to endure.

    There’s an interesting wodge of info on the Clearwater folks by NilsC here:

    http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/AdSense/thread?tid=55894d4f11234462&hl=en

    The high charges and shoddy business practices are to be noted!

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  2. More from Florida…
    http://www.miamiherald.com/business/nation/story/1484959.html

    The Miami Herald quotes the following from the FTC that on top of the sinful seven @not Kevin mentions above:

    The Justice Department has pursued criminal action in 44 additional cases and state attorneys general are pursuing 18 more, FTC officials said.

    It’s a start, then.

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    • Good to hear some tough talk from the FTC:

      ““Federal and state law enforcement officials will not tolerate those who take advantage of
      consumers in times of economic misfortune,” Vladeck said. “If you falsely advertise that you will connect people with jobs or with opportunities for them to make money working from home, we will shut you down. We will give your assets to the people you scammed, and, when it’s appropriate, we’ll refer you to criminal authorities for prosecution.””

      From Paul’s blog at: http://www.workathometruth.com/blog/2010/02/18/ftc-cracks-down-on-con-artists-who-target-jobless-americans/

      As you say, it’s a start.

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  3. Interesting that 7 of the 8 are in Florida whereas Pacific Webworks is the odd one out being in Utah. Perhaps the Florida AG got tired of the Utah AG doing nothing??! (Apart from taking political donations from the scammers that is)

    The Florida AG is also investigating these people:
    RNR Media, LLC., a/k/a “Cleanwhites”, Rauscher Bekke, LLC., Green Bracket, LLC., Jesse Stein, Individually and Paul Nute, Individually.

    Well Clean Whites is yet another teeth whitening scam – what is with people named Jesse and teeth whitener scams??
    http://www.myfloridalegal.com/lit_ec.nsf/investigations/D744A92BBDA533408525766900688EA7

    Note how the Just Think Media stable of scams by their own admission includes /included all the usual suspects:

    AcaiBurn (Acai)
    PureCleanse
    ResV (Resveratrol)
    Wu-Yi
    Google
    Grants
    Credit Report America
    Fraud Protection
    ID Theft
    Comprehensive Weight Loss
    Insider Secrets
    Dazzle White (teeth whitener)
    PureLiftCream
    List taken from the comment post by Mark A. of
    JustThink Media at:
    http://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/just-think-media–dazzlewhite-c232583.html

    Well here is another crowd of swamp dwellers for the Florida Attorney General to look into:
    XM Brands Inc.
    Address:
    3389 Sheridan St., Suite# 217
    Hollywood , Florida USA 33021
    Telephone Number: (800) 440-4397
    http://www.seflorida.bbb.org/Business-Report/XM-Brands-Inc-92013738

    As can be seen here they too were running a ‘Google Kit’ scam:
    http://sfholidays.blogspot.com/2009/11/scam-alert-xm-brands-refused-to-give-me.html

    Google XM Brands or XM Brands Scam:
    http://www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&source=hp&q=xm+brands+scam&meta=&aq=4&oq=xm+brands
    and you will find a flood of complaints about their various ‘products’ as well as their website which shows that they too are flogging all the usual suspects: Acai, Colon Cleanse, Teeth Whitener, Resveratrol and Work From home garbage:
    http://www.xmbrands.com/products.html

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  4. [...] as many scribes (e.g. Paul Schlegel) pointed out (e.g. here), it would, and it has all [...]

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  5. [...] Comments are now closed on this posting as Google Treasure Chest is dead. However, the problem has not gone away – the menace continues. For further information, all chat on this and subsequent scams is now here: Google Revolution, Different Name, Same Scam! and here: More on Google Profits and Pacific Webworks/ [...]

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  6. Neat start-up information on Pacific WebWorks.

    From this website which hosts a heap of related official documents, we have:
    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/21711204/Public-Offering-Registration—PACIFIC-WEBWORKS-INC—5-30-2000

    QUOTE (from 2000):

    As filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission on May 30, 2000

    We have a limited operating history and we cannot be certain of future progress or profitability. We were incorporated in 1987, but did not operate as a business until 1997. Starting in 1999, we began to market our software products through resellers. We may encounter financial, managerial, technological or other difficulties as a result of our lack of operating history…
    …We have consistently incurred losses since our formation. As of March 31, 2000 our accumulated losses totaled $3,330,495. We have financed ourselves through loans and sales of our securities…
    …Currently, in our estimation, few major competitors offer products comparable to the Visual WebTools TM product family. We believe that “Yahoo! Store” is our most significant competitor, with its brand name recognition and significantly greater financial, technical, marketing, and managerial resources. Yahoo! Store has significantly higher sales and customers than we do and has entered into a significantly higher number of license agreements with third parties than we have. Our success in our target market will depend upon our ability to build name brand recognition and to provide cost-effective products and services to our customers…
    …Our success is highly dependent on our ability to develop new and enhanced products that meet changing customer requirements…. …At present, our four principal products, Visual WebTools TM, ClipOn Commerce, IntelliPay, and Placeto Vacation are available…
    …We depend on our management, who may leave us at any time. We depend upon the efforts and abilities of our officers, directors, and certain key employees, including the officers and directors listed on pages 45 under the heading “Directors and Executive Officers.” Should we lose the services of one or more of these persons, their loss could have a material adverse effect on our operations…
    …Competition for employees in the electronic commerce industry is intense, and there can be no assurance that we will be able to attract and retain enough qualified employees….
    …We depend upon our proprietary rights, none of which can be completely safeguarded against infringement…. …We are not aware of any third party intellectual property rights which would prevent us from marketing and developing Visual WebTools TM, although such rights may exist. If we were to inadvertently infringe upon the intellectual property of another party, we could be forced to seek a license to those intellectual property rights, alter the products or processes so they no longer infringe upon those rights, or engage in litigation. If we were required to attempt to obtain a license to another party’s proprietary rights, our efforts would be expensive…

    We will need additional capital and may be unable to raise it. We believe, based on our current expenditure rate, that we will need $ 1.5 million additional financing by the summer of 2000.
    …We rely upon revenues from resellers, license agreements, and product sales. We may not be able to obtain additional funds on acceptable terms….

    …Our products are complex and may be subject to error complaints from our customers. Visual WebTools TM is complex and may contain errors, defects, and “bugs.” We have detected errors, defects, and bugs in the past and have corrected them as quickly as possible….
    …As of this date we have not experienced any material adverse effect by reason of an error, defect, or bug…
    …Our directors and officers are able to exercise significant influence over matters requiring stockholder approval. Currently, our directors and executive officers and their affiliates collectively own approximately 29.6% of our outstanding shares. This concentration of ownership may have the effect of delaying or preventing a change in control. Pursuant to Nevada corporate statutes, the holders of a majority of our common stock may authorize or take corporate action without notice to or the consent of the stockholders…

    …Investors may have difficulty selling our shares. There has not been a large public market for our equity securities and our common stock has traded on the over-the-counter market only since January of 1999…

    …We have not paid dividends. We have never paid a dividend on our common stock. We intend to retain future earnings to finance our growth and development and do not plan to pay cash dividends in the foreseeable future….

    …We have a new product in a developing market which may not work properly….
    …If Visual WebTools TM does not achieve market acceptance, we could suffer material adverse effects. Our markets are highly dependent on the use of the Internet. A number of critical issues concerning the commercial use of the Internet, including security, reliability, capacity, taxation, costs, ease of use, access, quality of service, and acceptance of advertising, remain unresolved and may retard the growth of the Internet for commercial applications….

    …We expect to derive revenues from user licenses and license renewals and to increase the brand recognition of Visual WebTools TM among users through these types of relationships. In the event that a substantial number of our customers were to decline to renew their contracts for any reason, we could experience a substantial drop in revenues…
    …As of March 31, 2000, twenty-two of our customers’ licenses have been up for renewal. Nine of our customers have already renewed their licenses. All of our current contracts expire following the original one year term….

    …We may be subject to increased regulations and may be exposed to liability for information retrieved from the Internet. Other than the laws and regulations applicable to businesses generally, we are aware of few laws and regulations which expressly apply to access and commerce on the Internet….

    As you’ll see, I’ve been selective in my snippets, but there, from the pen of Larsen & Bell, is their business plan.

    The last paragraph I’ve highlighted as they state categorically that they don’t know of any laws that will affect their operation. Here they state in their business plan that deceptive practices and the common law of the land from biblical times do not apply to themselves!!!!

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  7. Could this be the connection between the USA and County Durham? !! :D

    BBC: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/wear/8544045.stm
    Durham Police: http://www.durham.police.uk/press/news.php?id=1389

    The police link is now down, but the text from Google’s cache reads as:

    Woman arrested in America

    1st March, 2010

    A POLICE investigation launched 10 years ago has led to the arrest of a suspect in America.

    The long arm of the law finally caught up with the suspect, a 44-year-old woman from Spennymoor in Co Durham, when she was arrested in Texas.

    Today the woman, who isn’t being identified at this stage, arrived back from America with two detectives who flew out to Dallas to bring her back.

    One of the detectives was Robbie Roddis, who was part of the team of detectives who originally started the investigation in Spennymoor in 2000.

    The investigation was launched after allegations that a woman had been fiddling money from the Spennymoor firm where she was employed as an accounts clerk. It was claimed £300,000 was missing.

    The woman under suspicion at the time suddenly disappeared and it was discovered she had been living in different parts of the USA and had married a Texan.

    The hunt led to the High Court in London in August last year where a judge granted an extradition warrant.

    The woman was located at an address in a small town close to San Antonio and was arrested in January by the local deputy marshall and has remained in custody since then.

    Tomorrow the woman will appear before South Durham magistrates at Newton Aycliffe charged with 253 offences of forgery and deception going back over a two and a half year period.

    Texas is the state that first collared Jonathon Eborn in April last year.
    Spennymoor is just down the road from Consett etc.

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  8. Not Kevin says:

    Interesting. A post made today on this website also points out the connections between the Google Kit, Acai, Teeth scams etc and County Durham:
    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?t=2071617&page=2

    Not sure all his/her facts/allegations are correct though (Brock Felt, BBB) but a search for the address in the post + the word scam threw up a lot of porn sites: http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=trD&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-GB%3Aofficial&q=18+Millfield+Court%2C+DH8+8TN+scam&btnG=Search&meta=&aq=f&oq=

    and this: lancashireecho.com

    Lancashire Echo – Online News You Can Trust (yeah right!!) where the address is buried in the (very small!) small print below all the garbage about free Govt grants for UK citizens.

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  9. Not Kevin says:

    So the circle of scams begins all over again?? How depressing! Can we expect ‘Google Kits’ to make a re-appearance in a few months, followed by Acai and teeth whitening mark 2 (maybe Acai which whitens your teeth or something who knows!?)

    Caddish indeed. Fed-pack is yet another US site with a County Durham address. Note the 1 day (yes 1 day) trial period before they rob you: fed-pack.com/static/terms

    The grantsdot.com/uk/ website even has a ‘testimonial’ from Jon P., London who got a check – yes a check not a cheque, perhaps he is confused as to which country he is in. Or more likely he doesn’t even exist.

    Caddish Rondeaux Enterprises Ltd does however exist – at least according to Companies House. They even filed a company return just last week: http://www.ukdata.com/creditreports/viewCompanyDetails.do?companyId=06818199&only-match=1

    http://www.google.co.uk/webhp?hl=en#hl=en&q=%22Caddish+Rondeaux%22&meta=&aq=f&oq=%22Caddish+Rondeaux%22&fp=33a9a577caa4e7cb

    Some recent victims:
    http://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/caddish-rondeaux-enterprises-c308805.html

    From your scam.com link above it seems Fed Pack / Caddish et al is just another re-incarnation of an old grants scam called Grants 360 (Grants360).

    Here we can see another scammy affiliate network encouraging their affiliates to promote this crap:
    http://twitter.com/ewanetwork/status/9838133788

    Their whole Twitter feed indeed is an A to Z of scams – Acai, teeth, Home income etc, it’s all there:
    http://twitter.com/ewanetwork

    Seems this ‘dude’ called Ryan Eagle is the man boy behind EWA:
    http://www.nickycakes.com/ryan-eagle-super-affiliate-e-thug-yo/

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  10. Not Kevin says:

    Here is Ryan Eagle aka EWA pushing the scammy grant offer (Grants 360 aka Fed Pack aka Radish Caddish Rondeaux or whatever they are calling themselves this week) yet again :

    “Scale your existing grant campaigns into Canada and the United Kingdom with Grants 360! The UK is a huge unsaturated market waiting for you!”
    http://twitter.com/ewanetwork/status/9948263036

    And here is another affiliate network (CONvert2media) looking to exploit the ‘UK market’.
    “I have 2 Private Teeth Whitening – UK campaigns looking for some traffic.”
    http://twitter.com/convert2media/status/9686363430

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    • @Not Kevin

      Do you know how long tweets float round in the Twitter ecosystem? This is a serious question as I don’t know. In other words, is there a tweet archive or do the tweets only float around in a defined memory space and disappear once they are past the edge?

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  11. Not Kevin says:

    Not sure – but I am not quite sure of the point of Twitter either!

    I think they (‘Tweets’ hang around a while though – quite tedious to keep clicking ‘more’ to get older ones but you can also try Googling for them.
    Eg: http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=site:++site:twitter.com+twitter.com+dazzlewhite&ei=vVWQS62FLZTw0gTm4djsDA&sa=X&oi=nshc&resnum=1&ct=more-results&ved=0CA8Q2AQ

    (There are some there from early last year)

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    • Hmmm….

      It’s just that the way that Ryan at EWA etc bandies around all the latest ‘offers’, they are essentially UN-TRACEABLE!

      There are no links in tweets just these quick-fire bursts of information. Therefore there are no back-link algorithms for search engines etc.

      This all means that these crap websites that we’ve been examining can fire up and close down even faster than before once the few people in the know are listening in on the ‘broadcast’. It’s a neat way to trap the curious and unwary as well which further enhances the expansion of these websites.

      This is why it’s important to make the companies that host and provide credit handling facilities, and the ones that provide the rest of the ‘vertically integrated web marketeer package’ are held accountable for their actions (e.g. PWW). Without them, then Ryan etc can tweet away into the ether without any web foundation….

      Now we know that Ryan on his EWA website has already said that he’s intending to provide “the full package” to people for a fee that will include hosting etc. Once he’s done this, then he becomes another PWW and thus more visible….

      Do you see the change and difference between the two things going on here?

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  12. Not Kevin says:

    This is not Ryan Eagle but another affiliate network:

    http://www.findaffiliateoffers.com/NDustry-Clix-415.html

    Page looks familiar though.
    Note the ‘offer’ start date (31/12/09) ie: well AFTER Google announced a lawsuit against Pacific Webworks etc!

    The company running the offer is:
    NDustry Clix Inc.
    1622 West Britton Rd.
    Oklahoma City, OK 73120 USA
    President: Mike Pacheco
    Office: 888-665-6165 ext.1
    Cell: 405-618-3559
    http://www.warriorforum.com/ad-networks-cpa-cpm-cpl-millionaire-makers/168236-eleadmedia-ndustryclix.html#post1731800

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    • …familiar enough indeed, @Not Kevin!

      This is the thing. These templates are circulating everywhere – Google has a big job if it really wants to protect itself – but does it?

      Interestingly, (and this shows the already extant status of NDustry Clix Inc), I use OpenDNS to block lots of stuff from my home router and NDustry Clix Inc is already on the blacklist. I’d have to open the settings up a fair bit to be able to view the landing page. In essence, peer reviewing within OpenDNS has deemed ndustryclix.directtrack.com to be pants for internet users!

      One thinking occurred to me while looking at the screendump on the link you provided….

      Currently we only know about the English versions of these scams (sorry, business opportunities). The two biggest internet markets by user numbers will soon be China and India.

      Now my knowledge of both Chinese and the various Indian languages is zero, so has anyone seen a,

      Get Rich with Baidu”

      …in Chinese, or a similar Hindi offering? You know, complete with the 100% satisfaction guaranteed splash etc!

      This could already be going on, and I’d never know. Anyone bi-or tri-lingual could make a real fortune in those countries.

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  13. Pacific WebWorks and their supporters seem confident that the bad old days of being sued by Google are over…
    Their share price is up to 11 cents.
    Their Google case has been settled (apparently).
    They’re up to their old tricks with templates, phones, unwarranted credit card charges etc – and it’s all done via a blistering mirage of shell websites and affiliated ‘businesses’. e.g. makemoneyonline.nanacity.com/make-money-online-with-google-money-tree/ auto-dated to today…

    Here’s a nice share price graph saying buy, buy, buy…. except the vertical scale is logarithmic to emphasise the small values:
    http://www.hotstockmarket.com/forums/showpost.php?s=e1fbc6154ce0671e01662ec555993a98&p=2386280&postcount=16

    Another hot PWW topic, is something I’d previously missed from last December, 2009.

    It’s ANOTHER court case with PWW in the dock. This one seems to be a private matter, listed as:
    Nature of Suit: Torts – Property – Other Fraud
    Cause: 28:1332 Diversity-Fraud

    Further information about Deanna Pelletier and her case against the PWW creeps is very hard to come by. These are the only links I can find:

    http://dockets.justia.com/docket/court-caedce/case_no-2:2009cv03503/case_id-201636/

    http://dockets.justia.com/docket/court-caedce/case_no-2:2009at02032/case_id-201623/

    …so I wonder what’s going on with that one?

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  14. Vogel in this comment on a huge posting devoted to the dubious business that is Monavie, make some fine comments about the close-knit community of F-rated scammers in UTAH, just based on ACAI alone! See

    http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/monavie-scam-was-my-wife-recruited-sell-snake-oil/#comment-172261

    Also, see this post on the UTAH grouping:

    http://strangelyperfect.tv/5612/mybookface-google-utah-and-nevis-scamboys-united/

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  16. Another aspect to these Utah scams, apart from ripping off gullible punters, is the damage being done to legitimate businesses, like mine, whose trading names they appropriate as their merchant IDs.

    Over the last 2 or 3 years I’ve received hundreds of emails from people demanding refunds of unauthorized charges made, according to their statements, by GRANTSEARCH.

    It’s galling to search my business name and see it mentioned time and again in scam reports. Not much point taking legal action as the scammers are millionaires. Any suggestions about what I can do?

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  17. The latest news from the Pacific WebWorks’ (PWW) head office is that one of the chiefs, Christian R Larsen (CRL), has taken up a share option from 2008 on some PWW shares.
    See http://www.istockanalyst.com…4059557 for the stock filing and http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=PWEB.OB…source=undefined for a nice graph of PWW’s share price.

    Some things to note are that CRL’s option was exercised on 300k shares at a price of 4 cents. After this purchase, he had 300k shares in total – which means that he had none up to that point! (n.b. he still has 1275k shares options to exercise at this price before 15/10/2013)

    Now at the option issue on 15/10/2008, the share price had just hit a 15 month low all of two days previously and then had a minor surge, probably because of his option grant.

    So what’s going on?

    CRL appears to have stumped up 300k x $0.04 = $12k of his own money when previously he had no shares, just options. By anyone’s rule, he is paid quite handsomely so can easily afford the $12k and by all of PWW’s public statements (see posts passim) they are absolutely loaded with cash and all is going swimmingly for them…..

    Again. So what’s going on?

    The $12k that he’s pumped into the company only covers about a week’s wages for the 27 (last estimate) staff, excluding the directors, natch.

    Hmmm.

    One thing that must irk the three directors (because they own nearly all PWW shares in one way or another, and since they pay no dividends and never have done, a lot of their monetary income comes from flogging their self-issued shares when the ‘market’ is right), is the state of their share price back in their halcyon days of post 2000…
    Then, at their peak, it was common to see volumes of 100k – 200k shares exchanged daily at a price of ~$5.
    Recently, they were lucky to get 100k shares trading at $0.07, although I see that ~250k shares traded @$0.18 today.

    Self-issued? Well yes. The two Bells and CRL own and run the company, they decide who gets what shares and how much each gets paid. In short, CRL gave himself the option to buy shares at four cents with all the attached dates etc.

    Their employment contracts are online that show how many hours they are supposed to work for their money and the exact means by which any potential personal litigation will be handled by the company. (see http://www.docstoc.com…PACIFIC-WEBWORKS-INC—3-31-2008)

    The company’s much hyped Web Thingy version 5 is now out and the online run-through seems great! In it, you’ll see that the key to great earnings for your business is to get online and pay for all their services using the experience of men like CRL to help you on your way…..
    Just one thing, before you take it up, just check out the downward-sloping sawtooth graph that is PWW’s share price since 2000, bearing in mind that the three directors have been in charge all this time…
    Some experience, huh?

    http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=PWEB.OB…source=undefined

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  18. Not Kevin says:

    Looks like PWEB have released their 2010 first quarter results: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Pacific-WebWorks-Reports-Q1-bw-2737350227.html?x=0&.v=1

    Note the statement: “Profits for the quarter, while strong, were down somewhat from 2009 first quarter levels, and below expectations, as a result of significant unexpected costs assessed by the card associations during the first quarter of 2010 relating to our merchant processing.”
    Chargebacks in other words!??

    Looks like the Google lawsuit is ongoing too:
    http://dockets.justia.com/docket/court-utdce/case_no-2:2009cv01068/case_id-73157/

    Also found this site which is owned by Pacific Webworks: domaintools.com/esuccess2u.com

    Appears to be some sort of software for spamming people which dates back to 2008:
    moneymakingblog.net/esuccess2ucom-the-next-internet-boom/

    Note the quotes on esuccess2u.com from entrepreneur.com and MSNBC are actually both from the same 2008 article on entrepreneur.com and unsuprisingly have nothing to do with Pacific Webworks/esuccess2u :

    entrepreneur.com/marketing/onlinemarketing/article195250.html

    According to whois “Pacific WebWorks, Inc.” owns about 853 other domains, so who knows what else they have out there! A few are listed at Scam Times : http://www.scamtimes.com/get-rich/pacific-webworks-pwebob/ but there must be hundreds more…

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    • The financial report is good…

      I particularly like the phrase you highlighted, and this one,

      We expect to reach a final resolution of our legal issues with Google during the second quarter of 2010, and will continue to vigorously defend the frivolous class action suits filed against our company. Additionally, we continue to fine tune our new marketing strategies to better facilitate the development of long-term customer usage of our Visual WebTools suite of products

      By frivolous actions, these will be the Google one you mentioned that now seems to have taken on a new life after previously being played down by both parties, and maybe the Oprah Winfrey one about claiming she endorsed something they provided by their

      … comprehensive suite of affordable, easy-to-use software programs for small businesses that want to create, manage and maintain an effective Web strategy, including full e-commerce capabilities

      …when clearly she didn’t.

      As I keep saying, the Bell & Larsen triumvirate of former tarmacers provide both the ideas and the means for easily led people to be sucked into a pyramid scheme that does nothing but sell hot air and promises from a shopfront of thieving chicanery and deception that is unfortunately emulated and mimicked in it’s devilish contortions of entrapment by Jesse Willms and others of his type.

      As you said, credit card charge-backs are the only recourse for folks sucked into the miasma. PWWs own words spell it out.

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  19. Not Kevin says:

    No idea who is behind this latest scam but check out the blatant rip-off/fraudulent misrepresentation of the CNN website by this work at home scam:

    http://www.frogenyozurt.com/2010/05/cnnews-supports-online-work-at-home-program-scam/

    That’s just asking to be sued by CNN!

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    • Ha Ha. No chance there. CNN, Fox et al have had heaps of time to get their name cleaned up from these websites, and quite frankly, if the smell of scam is permanently attached to people like Fox News in the public’s mind, I’m all for it!

      Check out the target of your link’s article now. I’ve just checked and it’s quite different – see screenshot.

      ‘http://thecnnews.org/

      The subject, Kelly Richards is now “Julia Miller” but is actually a photo of the famous and beautiful French TV newsreader, Melissa Theuriau, http://www.google.co.uk/images?q=Melissa%20Theuriau

      …and by an amazing stroke of luck, the two errant CNN reporters are… Jennifer Theuriau and James Field!

      Down at the bottom are two products that you’ll get dumped with. They have English addresses and WHOISs!

      Registrant:
      Cho Yung (UK) Ltd
      136-140 old Shoreham Road
      Hove, East Sussex BN3 7BD
      United Kingdom

      Domain Name: CHOYUNG.COM
      Created on: 27-Nov-08
      Expires on: 27-Nov-10
      Last Updated on: 31-Jul-09

      with a registered address here,
      Cho Yung (UK) Ltd Company No: 06708912.
      VAT 941 9708 96
      Registered Address:
      48 Broomgrove Gardens,
      Edgware,
      Middlesex,
      HA8 5RN

      The other business is another cleansing one, “New Life Cleanse”. It’s other nom-de-crap with details is,
      DOMAIN: PROHEALTHCLEANSE.COM

      RSP: Growing Your Business
      URL: ‘http://www.viveraglobal.com

      created-date: 2009-06-23 20:25:46
      updated-date: 2009-11-16 10:01:13
      registration-expiration-date: 2010-06-23 20:25:47

      owner-organization: Trading Planet Ltd
      owner-name:
      owner-street: P.O. Box 13511
      owner-city: Bradley Stoke, Bristol
      owner-state:
      owner-zip: BS32 8AX
      owner-country: GB
      owner-phone: +44.2031399027

      Now despite being in Brizzle, they say,
      “The laws of the Cyprus, without regard to its conflict of law principles, will govern these Terms.” – which means you can all get stuffed as far as they care.

      All in all, a nice heap of bollocks, and my old Bollochio email spam magnet still keeps drawing them in. Try this one from “Teresa Boyd” for instance….

      ‘http://www.homecareerfinder.info

      The template has hardly changed from the Google Treasure Chest/Money Tree/Profit System ones and even has the same stupid cheques etc

      And to show how the same circle keeps getting squared and how the same names keep popping up, go back to last October here:
      http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=1823427&page=4

      There you’ll find that Trading Planet has the same address as viveraglobal.com (above) on it’s homepage,

      Vivera Ltd
      Unit 5, Mill Road Industrial Estate,
      Linlithgow, West Lothian, EH49 7QY
      Company No: 354623

      Read the comments and you find that people in Bradley Stoke, Bristol were being used as addresses for this business… (confirmation link)Also, in the same comments, other businesses at the same Linlithgow address are,

      Genesis Group (UK) Ltd
      Health Food Suppliers
      Tel: 01506 845762
      Unit 5, Mill Rd Industrial Estate,
      Linlithgow Bridge,
      Linlithgow,
      West Lothian
      EH49 7QY

      Linpharma Herbal Products
      Health Food Suppliers
      Tel: 01506 848649
      Unit 5, Mill Rd Industrial Estate,
      Linlithgow Bridge,
      Linlithgow,
      West Lothian
      EH49 7QY

      Brainchild Nutritionals
      Health Food Suppliers
      Tel: 01506 846931
      Unit 5, Mill Rd Industrial Estate,
      Linlithgow Bridge,
      Linlithgow,
      West Lothian
      EH49 7QY

      Houston Nutraceuticals
      Health Food Suppliers
      Tel: 01506 848555
      Unit 5, Mill Rd Industrial Estate etc

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        • FANTASTIC news! Only one problem – the winding up orders are well before some of the most recent complaints about some of the businesses, the last of the three was on 09 April 2010…

          Does this mean that the website owners promoting the rubbish are getting ripped off as well by the upline dudes flogging them promises?
          Does it mean that the payment processors are still in business?

          I can still see a lot of what-ifs around this.

          Still. It’s fantastic news and it’s a pity that our American & Canadian friends can’t just wind up crooks in the same way as us, isn’t it? After all, when examined closely, what happened here was that petitions to court were made, someone decided that the businesses were a load of Scottish mist covering some dodgy dealings, and then the businesses were wound up in the public interest.

          But in reality, no-one has been charged and no-one penalised or found guilty of something (according to the article). Which is in itself a weird form of peculiarly British justice.

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      • Not Kevin says:

        If you go to:
        http:// 69.167.141.44/

        (Remove the space before 69.)

        You will find the set-up of a scammer promoting the full collection of acai, teeth whitening, work at home, cho yung tea scams etc.

        Using:
        consumer-daily-news.com
        consumer-news-report.com
        consumer-news-today.com
        joysdietsuccess.com
        le-succes-du-regime-de-sabine.com
        male-pornstars-exposed.com (eh?)
        steves-ripped-blog.com
        topcoloncleanseguide.com

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      • Not Kevin says:

        Oh yeah and the blog post here on the Cho Yung Tea scam shows a list of their other sites:
        http://hphosts.blogspot.com/2010/07/scam-alert-theconsumerheraldcom.html

        which include:

        acaiberry-plus.com
        choyung.com
        cho-yung.com
        cho-yungdirect.com
        choyungaffiliates.com
        choyungtea.net
        choyungtea.com
        choyungteareview.co.uk
        choyungteareviews.co.uk
        choyungteareviews.com
        mysisters-dietsecret.com
        mysistersdietsecret.com
        procleansegold.com
        procleansegoldformen.com
        slimmingsolutionreviews.co.uk
        visionmarktech.com

        So they have “reviews” of their own site and fake blogs (mysisters-dietsecret.com) too. Nice.

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  20. Not Kevin says:

    From homecareerfinder.info:

    “The biggest online company pays me between $5 and $30 for every web site link that I post. No one needs to buy anything from me or the company in order to get paid.”

    Yep, the only thing they have changed is Google has become “The biggest online company” / “the company”

    No suprises either when you click on their link for the Home Income kit:
    clickncopysystem.com
    IP Location: – Utah – St. George – Hole In One Media

    internetprofitsuccesssystems.com
    IP Location: – Utah – Sandy – Viawest

    Looks like Paul @ workathometruth.com already knows about this lot:
    http://www.workathometruth.com/not-recommended/tag/internetprofitsuccesssystem-com/

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    • That’s my point about things like ‘http://www.homecareerfinder.info The fact is that they’ve hardly changed at all…. same source (Utah), same templates, same modus operandi(small print, difficult to cancel etc), same countries (US, Cyprus, UK), same scam.
      Another year has passed and bog all has been done to collar the rogues.

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  21. Not Kevin says:

    Looks like thecnnews.org changed their page in the past few days..
    http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:7H_lTdrd5zAJ:www.thecnnews.org/+thecnnews&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk

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    • That clickncopysystem is one pile of steaming poop. It’s designed to confuse from the top to the bottom…

      After clickbooth redirects becuase I’m in the UK, it goes to internetprofitsuccesssystems.com

      But check at the bottom and the terms are for,
      Blackbelt Profit System …!

      But when you click the terms they are for
      clickncopysystem.com.com
      Complexity, LLC
      1812 West Sunset Blvd #1-138
      St. George, UT 84770
      Customer Service Phone
      #888-201-5203
      email hidden; JavaScript is required

      Complexity just about sums it up!

      Now in an effort to find the Black belt stuff, whacking “scam” against them pulls out two likely suspects:
      ‘http://www.blackbeltprofitsystem2010.com/ and
      ‘http://blackbeltprofitsystem.com/

      One is gaudy and horrid, the other calm and re-assuring in appearance.

      The gaudy one links to an IQ test (yes really) which is a cover for a games subscription service by Celldorado.

      The non-gaudy one soon reveals it’s stripes by clicking through a hidden link, ‘http://tinyurl.com/Orderblackbeltprofitsystem to,

      ROBERT ALLEN !!!!

      Here, ‘http://www.msicourse.com/campaigns/rgahd/index.php

      It’s the same old stuff, again and again.

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      • Interestingly, the walnutriver email address gives a WHOIS here, in Utah again!

        Domain name: walnutriver.net
        Registrant Contact:

        Tech Support ()

        Fax:
        1055 W. Red Cliffs Dr.
        #C-124
        Washington, UT 84780
        US

        It’s a pretty holding page.

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    • It’d be good if I could stumble upon some open templates again (like the Bloosky thing), to give early warning of all this and the various permutations that exist….

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  22. Not Kevin says:

    Interesting link popped up on my Google Alerts feed today: http://www.socialtoolkitscammed.me/google-ends-get-rich-scam-suit-with-pacific-webworks/

    “Google Ends Get-Rich Scam Suit With Pacific Webworks

    Law360, New York (May 25, 2010) — Google Inc. has settled a trademark suit alleging Pacific Webworks Inc. infringed the Web giant’s name to hawk a get-rich-quick scheme.

    Google’s target has shifted to Bloosky Interactive LLC, a Nevada company whose alleged role in the scheme was uncovered in discovery, Google said in a stipulated final judgment Monday in..”

    Bloosky you mentioned here:
    http://strangelyperfect.tv/3099/google-treasure-chest-its-a-scam-and-a-half/ where you said “In the source code for SecureCartCentre we find that images are served from bsadn.pantherssl.com Click that and you’ll get the folder structure for bloosky.com who serve advertising campaigns. Fish through the folder structure and examine various files. Google Treasure Chest is there. Check out some css files and you’ll find that some are loaded from discovertotal.com , which has a contact of bloosky.com”

    Wonder what’s up?

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  23. Continuing the UTAH scams and court case leading to scammer crack-down theme…..

    Oprah Winfrey, in her case from last August (see http://strangelyperfect.tv/6305/monavie-gillmap-idaho-falls-google-treasure-chest-and-oprah/), has finally forced the “businesses” concerned to back down.
    See “Two Utah companies settle Oprah lawsuit” http://www.sltrib.com/ci_15017177

    Just keep a close eye on these businesses in future everyone… It won’t be long before we’ll see them again!
    MonaVie of South Jordan
    456 Health Systems of Spanish Fork
    B67 Nutra Pure Systems
    Crush LLC of Sandy
    TMP Nevada

    In typical scamster mode, whereby phone calls are not answered etc and a wall of silence exists for all communications except incoming cash from conned folk, I quote from the SLCT article:

    Jason Brailow, a principal officer at Crush and its parent, TMP Nevada, did not return a message seeking comment that was left with a California attorney who represents Crush in a separate proposed class-action lawsuit against Crush.

    Calls made to listed Crush phone numbers generated a recording that said they had been disconnected. But Rachman said he hoped to reach a settlement with Crush and other companies, though he warned the lawsuit would be pursued if there are no agreements.

    Crush and TMP also are being sued by the Illinois Attorney General’s Office for alleged violations of that state’s consumer fraud and deceptive business practices act for actions related to Winfrey.

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  24. Not Kevin says:

    There is a bit more on Bloosky here:

    Google recently added Bloosky Interactive to the lawsuit. The company is registered in Nevada, Utah and California.
    According to the Google lawsuit, Bloosky promised “$200-$907 per day to anyone with a computer and basic typing skills” and used the Google name and logo to help persuade people to give up their credit card numbers.
    http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_15205576

    If you type bloosky into Google it suggests “bloosky interactive scam” so I guess other people have issues with them too!

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    • Tom Harvey really has it in for the bad guys, and fair play to him! The SLC Tribune has all the best reporting on this subject. I particularly liked how a whole family of Larsen-ists have been rolled into the schemes:

      Besides the company, the injunction also includes officers Kenneth W. Bell, Robert Brett Bell, William Marc Bell and Christian R. Larsen and their spouses, Roberta L Bell, Jillian Bell, Ashley A. Bell and Jennifer Larsen. Companies set up by the wives apparently were used as part of the scheme.

      ..and meanwhile, it continues, the normally ebullient and expressive self-publicist….

      Pacific WebWorks CEO Kenneth Bell declined comment on the settlement.

      Tom Harvey finishes with the revealing, and killer, line,

      At least three other proposed class action lawsuits are pending against Pacific WebWorks.

      ….which gladdens me no end!!! At Least Three!!!!

      Woo-Hoo!

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  25. [...] This is my observation on all the various scams perpetrated on folk by such smiling scum as Pacific WebWorks and Jesse [...]

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  26. [...] Turkey controls the northern part of Nicosia, Cyprus, which contains some of the addresses used in the GTC scam. Amazon Related: The Good, the Spam and the Ugly: Shooting It Out with Internet Bad Boys Belt Vans [...]

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  27. Somewhat irritating Google Advert appeared on this post, this morning. If you haven’t seen it, here’s a screenshot!!
    PWW Ad On Strangely Perfect TV

    Now the Google T&Cs say that I must not click on any adverts, but as a reminder or a description of how this works for those that don’t know, if someone clicks on the PWW advert, then they pay Google some cash, and then Google pay me some cash!!

    Given the way that PWW have scraped money off all and sundry and are claiming a no-fault semi-victory from their being sued by Google itself, my thoughts on the matter of getting money from PWW are clear to me – but of course, I couldn’t possibly say, could I?

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  28. So are you endorsing Pacific Webworks now?

    Just kidding, of course. I just haven’t seen enough inane questions like that recently and thought I’d fill in the gap.

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  29. Not Kevin says:

    The “Google pays me…” ads are still around! Check out:
    http://content.yieldmanager.edgesuite.net/atoms/94/1f/72/0d/941f720dba987631ea209204583712a3.gif

    Clicking on it took me to newsdaily7.com (yet another fake news site) but the site was down…

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    • Amazingly, the newsdaily7 website is up and running now – and I got two addresses that match when chasing through the tedious T&Cs!!

      For me, this is a first!

      They are here, http://whois.domaintools.com/homebasedincomeacademy.com although the newsdaily7 whois gives a London address:
      http://whois.domaintools.com/newsdaily7.com
      The registrant of Belglay etc via business searching further takes you to a woman called Suzanne Treisman from Finchley who has published an e-book on better Bridge playing.

      Nice.

      However,the addresses for the Home Based Income Academy are peculiarly wrong…. How so?

      Well
      ‘http://newsdaily7.com/ will take you to…
      ‘http://www.homebasedincomeacademy.com/incomeacademy.php, the home based income academy, I kid ye not.
      The design is like the old Google Treasure Chest template with “Google” stripped out…. (They do mention the normal ‘as seen on’ Yahoo!, MySpace, facebook and MSN, presumably because they haven’t been sued by them yet)

      Now amazingly, the T&Cs at the top are the same as at the bottom! They take you to:

      ‘http://www.homebasedincomeacademy.com/algterms.php, which is even the same domain!

      It’s all run by “Lake View Holdings”.

      “Hmm”, I thought. “Could this be a view of a Great Salt Lake?”

      Well actually, the WHOIS for the two domains is so far identical.
      It claims to be in the …..
      U.S. Virgin Islands!!! ….which is the peculiarly odd bit as it claims that all legal stuff is subject to the laws of Utah?

      But no….there it is! It’s Provo in good old UTAH! Ha Ha.
      It seems that it’s a private house and that the value has fallen a bit. This website puts it in default on a loan, I assume.
      http://www.thejimmyrexteam.com/utah-county-notice-of-default-1282009/
      …and this website lists the house as for sale.
      http://www.trulia.com/property-sitemap/UT/Provo/84604/Timpview_Drive/

      Trading up, perhaps. LOL!!!

      Now somewhere in the sign-up process, you’ll undoubtedly be charged for some extras, like the ALG Bucks mentioned in the T&Cs.
      This seems to be a quiz thing and anyone signing up to do this “quiz” is called a “student”.
      (I really could NOT make this up)
      ALG stands for:

      American Land Grab

      It’s about buying property, apparently.

      I know where there’s one for sale in Provo.

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      • Wow, glad to see you guys are still at it. It does seem like it’s all come back with a vengeance. I think instead of putting up/taking down offers with different names that now they are dispersing a lot of different names with the same templates all at once – I would guess to keep the complaints of each one off the radars as much as possible.

        There are 3 different ones that I saw being promoted by News7Daily that I did some videos of here:
        http://www.workathometruth.com/not-recommended/2010/06/30/news7daily-com-and-profitguruontheweb-com-sales-process-review/

        Also, I’m pretty confident that a disclosure after EIGHT separate order links wouldn’t really be considered “clear and conspicuous”. LOL.

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      • Did you check out the “General Refund Policy” at Home Based Income Academy:

        “General Refund Policy
        In accordance with standard practice for online digital sales and our terms of sale for each transaction, we are unable to refund any payment after any purchase is made. This no refund policy is a result of the non-returnable nature of digital products.

        Digital products sold via this website are like software purchases made at a store that are not refundable once opened. Once you have been granted access to the product, upon payment, it has been subject to being “opened”, read/viewed/listened to, and/or copied and it cannot be returned and therefore cannot be refunded. Access to your purchase is defined as having been granted as soon as your payment is completed and we have sent you an email with a login url, your username and password.”

        …I think of Charlie Brown (of Peanuts fame) when they talk about “standard practices”…

        Q: Just where did you come up with these “standard practices”
        A: Home Based Income Academy/Charlie Brown – “We just now made them up!”

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        • twatThat’ll be ‘http://homebasedincomeacademy.com/refunds.php

          And he looks such a nice man!
          [warning: sarcasm alert!]
          It’s soooo fortunate that they have that ALG quiz going to make up for any contractual shortcomings. As they say,

          There is no limit to the amount of ALG Bucks you can earn. No limit!

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          • Not Kevin says:

            Here is that home based income academy scam being advertised on Yahoo:

            http://stopmalvertising.com/malvertisements/another-work-from-home-scam-advertised-by-yahoo/all-pages

            The newsdaily7.com fake news website that the ad leads to is registered to addresses in London and Israel.

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            • Not Kevin says:

              Speaking of newsdaily7.com – the “Google pays me” ads are back. This one: http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac355/scamscreenshots/adonphotobucket14July2010.jpg takes you to newsdaily7.com when you click on it.

              Speaking of fake news, this Courthouse news service post on a Pacific Webworks class action lawsuit shows that prosecuters still haven’t quite got to grips with the whole cpa affiliate networks > affiliates > advertisers triangle:

              The complaint claims that Pacific operates under a variety of Internet names including Tracking202 Inc.; Media Trust LLC (Advaliant); CyberPlex inc. (CX Digital Media); Coleadium Inc. (Ads4Dough); JAR Media LLC; Sybtrackcom; eSynergy Media LLC; W4 Media LLC; Bskytracking.com; GMB Direct Inc.; Elite Clicks Media LLC; Tracklead.net; Track606.com; Intermark Communications Inc. (Copeac); Zoomleads.net; Vetrue Incorporated (Neverblue); Lidango; and Convert2Media LLC.
              http://www.courthousenews.com/2010/07/14/28799.htm

              Yes those all play a part in the scam, but they are seperate companies and not part of Pacific Webworks.

              No wonder scams thrive when the lawyers can’t even work out the basics of how all these scams operate!

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              • @Not Kevin

                The little link at the courthouse news page foot takes you to the actual court summons as a pdf, http://www.courthousenews.com/2010/07/14/FakeNews.pdf

                If you read carefully, the lawyers do separate PWW from the rest, collectively called John Doe. However, I agree with you that it’s a bit of a job for them to go after all the businesses…

                The trouble is that the whole THING together, is a scam, but the scam is separated into notionally separate entities who, on the surface, appear to generally operate legally, and in isolation. I don’t actually believe this, of course, as I think they’re all in it together, colluding in a massive collective conspirational scam.

                And so while they may be able to claim immunity from prosecution within their own particular fields, in both the UK and USA, conspiring to commit a crime, is a crime nevertheless, even though an individual’s part in it may not be criminal. (In fact, this notion is part of the court case, count III, in the pdf. It’s a pretty stunning read actually.)

                Much like the getaway driver in a robbery. The CPA networks and the rest are like him. He, as the driver, could say that he was only driving a car, legally, as he has a licence and the car is insured (say). But handling stolen goods is the crime of the driver, and PWW, via their money dealing services, are doing much the same!!!
                The CPA networks could be said to be breaking in or cracking the safe doors, and the ad networks could be likened to dodgy cafes and bars, always on the lookout for new suckers or skilled fellow thieves to join in the heist.

                “end of analogy time!!”

                However, this court case could be the reason that PWW’s share price fell – even when the Google court case was settled!!!

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  30. Not Kevin says:

    Fake news just in – for the fake news websites it seems that cashing in on a disaster is not stooping too low. Hence gulfcoastnews9.com and gulfinquirer.com For the latest news on the Gulf oil spill? Nope. For the latest work at home scam? Yep.
    http://hphosts.blogspot.com/2010/06/scam-alert-www-career-digestcom.html

    Not only that but the “make a fortune with Google” stuff is back! Either these scammers have very short memories or they figure that the Google lawsuit thing is done and dusted or they realise that mentioning the big G is so profitable they will take the risk..
    http://hphosts.blogspot.com/2010/06/scam-alert-news9onlineorg.html

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    • …and er….yeah. Google (and others figure highly splashed across the top of his last image at the end of his posting…along with

      Facebook
      YouTibe
      Yahoo!
      Twitter
      Ebay (wah?…)
      Bing

      and MySpace

      This crap is on ‘http://myincomesuccessvault.com/ which handily and ironically, at the bottom of the page says:

      *All Rights Reserved. The Lanham Act prohibits the unauthorized use of registered trademarks. The Lanham Act states trademark infringement is when a trademark is used in a manner that is likely to cause consumer confusion as to the source or origin of your product or where the company is attempting to pass off its goods as being endorsed or sponsored by an entity other than the trademark owner.

      I kid ye not!

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  31. Not Kevin says:

    Ironic indeed – which makes it easy to find their other websites (all 327 of them!) which feature all the usual suspects: colon cleansing, acai, teeth whitening and work from home scams:
    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=“The+Lanham+Act+prohibits+the+unauthorized+use+of+registered+trademarks”

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  32. Not Kevin says:

    Hmm – link clipped. Try: http://bit.ly/cAovuM

    Seems the company behind this is XM Brands in Florida – the same people who came up with the “Google Profit Library”:

    http://sameip.org/ip/174.143.30.126/

    (Not all their sites are on the same ip address, myincomesuccessvault.com and vividwhitesmiles.com for example are all on their own)
    http://sameip.org/ip/173.203.232.227/

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  33. Not Kevin says:

    Looks like these are the same people as myincomesuccessvault.com :

    http://www.trustedsource.org/blog/425/Facebook-Scam-How-to-Get-Rich-on-the-Internet

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  34. Not Kevin says:

    Looks like the usual suspects of Cyprus, UK and Nevis St Kitts:

    http://www.workathometruth.com/not-recommended/2010/07/10/72-websites-to-avoid/

    Most of those websites on that list were/are run as “offers” by most of the cpa affiliate networks – it seems that the whole cpa affiliate marketing industry exists for the sole purpose of being a “middleman” for scams! (Although increasingly not even the ‘middleman’ as many of the networks now simply create their own ‘offers’ (scams) rather than taking on advertisers: more control and much more profit! )

    It’s the same old story of churn and burn – with constantly changing product names and websites promoting the same thing!
    http://odigger.com/?q=Biz+Opp&network_id=

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    • bejeezus @Not Kevin….

      That’s a helluva lot of bizops.

      Just back from holiday so it’ll take me some time to wade through all the extra information and clues from you guys. Thanks a lot. I also saw some Get rich with Google sites just before I went away..now where are they…?

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  35. Checked out Pacific WebWorks latest earnings?

    See http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Pacific-WebWorks-Reports-Q2-bw-4013823547.html?x=0&.v=1

    In here you’ll find that 2009 to 2010 2nd quarter earnings have dropped from $8.6m to $3.3m.

    Earnings per share have gone up, thanks to a dramatically reduced share base. You can now get $0.03 per share….

    Except you can’t, can you?

    Because Pacific WebWorks DO NOT issue dividends!!!

    What a bunch of sharks.

    CEO Ken Bell lists the company’s achievements over the past quarter as:

    * Better Management of Customer Servicing to Increase Customer Loyalty
    * Release from Google Litigation
    * Full Release of Web Wizard Version 5
    * Repositioned company to operate consistent with new credit card association guidelines

    Which is nice – but investing in his apparently now legal company still won’t turn you a profit or income unless you gamble purely on share price movements!

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  36. Tom Harvey, in this closely-worded piece in the Salt Lake Tribune yesterday (http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/home/50126367-76/webworks-pacific-google-company.html.csp), notices much the same as me about PWW’s latest financial report.

    Being a local chap, Mr Harvey tried to contact PWW for further information, as really, their statement is not clear and the missing pieces provide ambiguous truths. But as he says,

    Representatives of Pacific WebWorks did not return a phone call seeking further information about its financial report.

    One such ambiguity that he highlights, is,

    The (…) unspecified “unreasonable and unnecessarily” confining limitations imposed by credit card associations.

    This, of course, means that chargebacks for illegal removal of money from one’s bank account, ACTUALLY WORK!!!!

    So go for it folks. Any time you’re conned on-line, get a chargeback!

    Mr Harvey also tellingly mentions another reason for PWWs pathetic share price – apart from the fact that earnings per share for anyone except the directors is ZERO,

    Despite settling with Google, the company still faces four proposed class-action lawsuits that make many of the same allegations. In one filed in federal court in Salt Lake City, attorneys for Pacific WebWorks and the plaintiff, Song Que Hahn of California, are disputing whether Hahn can amend the suit. The proposed amendments include allegations that Pacific WebWorks, its officers and their wives created a series of companies for use in processing credit cards in order to insulate Pacific WebWorks from complaints about fraudulent charges.

    Well done Tom. Just keep shouting about it. Make sure everyone knows and that nothing is forgotten. Google have dodged the issue – let’s hope the others open PWW’s dealings right out into the open.

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