How to Convert a Dynamic Disk to Basic Disk in Windows 7

datePosted on 13:08, September 26th, 2009 by Strangely

Firstly, Do Not Dance with the Devil!

I made the mistake (again!) of trying dynamic disks with my new Windows 7 installation.  I must have been asleep – the use of this system is seriously frowned upon for most users.  It has several pitfalls not least that it’s high-end Windows specific (i.e not home, basic etc), and it’s impossible to clone partitions for backup or moves, say.

But mainly, it’s supposed to be un-do-able!

Dynamic Disk Option
Dynamic Disk Option

To convert from basic to dynamic is frighteningly easy (see screen shot).  The reversing option disappears once it’s done and in virtually all Disk Partition Software How to Convert a Dynamic Disk to Basic Disk in Windows 7,  any ‘partitions’, now called volumes, just show as one big monolithic slab of pale yellow disk that has any possible action greyed out!  This was really bad as it was on the system drive…

You’ll see in the screen-shot that there are 3 disks.

Disk 0 & disk 1 were an effort at user-data mirroring originally until I realised what I pile of poo I’d just landed in.  All the initial  recommendations were negative and the prognosis didn’t look good.  See:

Solution

HxD Screenshot
HxD Screenshot

However, this post gave me a pointer which eventually led to here and the HxD disc editing tool, here.   The Dynamic Disk Converter is a paid for solution and would have worked.  But I tried the Hex Editor approach after a bit more reading around the subject….

The trick, as in Hitch-hiker’s Guide to the Galaxy, is 42!

Specifically, all 42’s must be converted to 07.

The highlighted area contains the bit to edit and the numbers to edit in this area are those in column 02 that are 42.  So change all the 42’s to 07’s in column 02 in the four highlighted lines.  (n.b. The screendump was taken after I’d fixed the disc, so all the 42s are now 07 and some partitions have been deleted.)

That’s all.

Do NOT twiddle anything else.

Caveat

This post in the thread says to just alter one line – this is wrong!  (There’s a confusing addition at the bottom.  This relates directly to my experience, so yes, all real primary partitions are numbered 07)

And this post says to do them all – this is right.  It shows 3.

In my original pre-editted state, I had 4!  Handily, this shows the reason (I think), why you can only have 4 primary partitions on a drive.

Finale and Actual Actions Summary

Current Disks
Current Disks

Now you’ll see I have only two 07’s in the column (in the screenshot above).  These map to the two partitions showing in my Disk Management full screen-shot here.  For some reason, it had ‘remembered’ other volumes I’d made on the disk – that’s why I had 4 to do.

I was quite prepared to buy the paid-for software.  It looked good and worth the cash.  Instead:

  1. I very tediously moved ‘volumes’ into ‘partitions’ onto a third disk I entered into the system.
    1. This later disk needed it’s partitions resizing first to make room.
    2. It was hot-plugged using it’s SATA into the wire from the DVD as I didn’t have any spare SATA wires!  Doh!
  2. The moved data was from disk 0 & disk 1, all relevant stuff going to disk 2.
  3. Deleted all the volumes from Disk 1
  4. I could then set Disk 1 to basic using Windows as per Microsoft instructions.
  5. Moved all user data back to C-Drive volume (I had been in the process of separating data from programs).
  6. Backed up C-Drive volume and system state using Windows 7 Backup tool to new partition ‘BACKUP’ using all of Disk 1
    1. This was in case the following hex stuff failed.  It would allow an easy restore by:
      1. Install windows from DVD onto Disk 0
      2. Use Windows backup to reset system state and all the files & programs on the C-Drive on Disk 0
  7. Now used the Hex editor to edit the disk sector information as described above.
  8. REBOOT (fingers crossed!)
  9. WAHAY! It worked.
  10. Removed pseudo partition remaining on Disk 0 to leave unallocated space  – I think this was due to the invisible 1Mb database that exists on dynamic disks.

Plans

I’ve now got two new hard drives in the post.  When these have arrived and are installed, I’ll use standard tools to move partitions and get user data onto a RAID mirror assembly.  This will increase data integrity and give me a better backup.  You’d think that outboard backups would be fine, wouldn’t you?  Well I bought a Western Digital 1TB Studio Edition which worked okay for a while….

But it ran so hot the eSATA/USB circuitry failed!  I dismantled it and found the drive to be okay – this is the third disk, Disk 2 in the screen-shots!

Now, I have a new system with a better,  heavy-duty power supply, adequate (and quiet cooling), with the whole thing protected behind an APC UPS which I’ve had for a year.  Sticking to basic disks should make backups simpler and the whole thing should be more reliable – certainly more so than the WD Studio thing which is a pile of hot plastic pants.

Stick to basic Disks – you know it makes sense!

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42 Responses to “How to Convert a Dynamic Disk to Basic Disk in Windows 7”

  1. David on December 1st, 2009 at 7:28 pm

    Dynamic Disk convertor did not work for me paid over the money for it. I wish I had sssn your post earlier. Took my drive and put it into another computer running windows 2008 server and bingo recognised the drive got all the data off and then converted the disk.

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  2. Strangely on December 1st, 2009 at 7:39 pm

    So that’s manual editting 1, paid for software Nil!

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  3. Tom on December 28th, 2009 at 12:28 pm

    Ok, sleepy in the morning, didn’t realize I’m trying to create fifth partition, voila, dynamic hell.

    It was on a new machine, so I made backup on a usb flash and went for what the Internet had for me. Tried your solution, rebooted, Windows working, fine.

    However, instead of three enigmatic raw partitions originaly on the HP notebook I now have one enigmatic raw partition. But hey, didn’t know what’s there before, don’t know now :).

    Big thanks for this, I just don’t have time for recovering my system right now, so this really saved me.

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    • Strangely on December 28th, 2009 at 1:20 pm

      @Tom
      Glad it worked!

      One extra partition on your HP machine “could” be the backup BIOS-type thing that came on all Compaq machines until they were bought by HP. The other partition is probably the invisible partition that’s made as part of the dynamic disk hell. It’s actually a database that stores heaps of data relevant to the dynamic disks.

      So now you have one standard partition, and it’s all working fine – ergo, job done. Just be careful in case your machine is set up in the old Compaq fashion. There are quite a few machines about like this, and if you delete the BIOS partition there’s a separate restore route to replace this…..(Acer sometimes do this as well)

      (This is one of the reasons I stick to bog standard mainboards and componentry nowadays and stay away from bespoke things from major manufacturers unless I’m sure that they are completely wipe-able and restore-able from a standard Windows/Linux boot disk. It’s also why I will never, ever fall into the dynamic disk trap again!)

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  4. Plaknas on December 29th, 2009 at 4:33 pm

    Hi,

    I went through your solutions for this problem. It all seems fine except that I have only one disk on my laptop. I didn’t know there were two other volumes that didn’t show and when I created another one, I ended up with this. Now if I do the HxD method, given that I have only one harddisk, can I still boot Windows? And if I do a full system recovery, can I set things straight? I mean, get back to basic disks? I am willing to do anything but I cannot pay….just bought a new HP laptop. Thanks.

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    • Strangely on December 29th, 2009 at 6:55 pm

      If it’s fine…what’s the problem? ;-) You seem a bit confused so let me know exactly where you are with your system and changes. I’ll help where I can but as soon as mine started working properly, I stopped playing with the tool!

      But guessing;

      When you use HxD, you examine a disc at a time. By default it’s read-only for safety. So if you only have one drive, you only have to do it once.

      What you have to look at is how many “07″ or “42″’s you have. If you are sure you only have one boot (usually C) drive, then there should be just one “07″ when you are done and finished. Any extra one is a hidden partition for the dynamic disk database…(This is the status in my screen dump above). You just set this “42″ to “07″ if you haven’t already and then delete it to recover the small bit of disc space it takes up, using the standard windows disc management tool.

      You can tell your boot disc as there’s a number “13″ on the same line as your “07″. You should be able to boot your windows from this disc. (This “13″ pops up a lot in old DOS type talk and I think this is what’s going on.)

      A problem for you is the exact location of your system restore information. As far as I’m aware, system restore doesn’t dig down as far as dynamic disc information, just files on the partition.
      I didn’t do this route and had all my important files saved to alternative locations before I started.

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      • Plaknas on December 29th, 2009 at 7:09 pm

        Well it goes like this. I could see only two volumes C, with Windows installed and D, the one with the Recovery files. C had a capacity of 450GB, so I decided to create more and I ended up with a dynamic disk. I thought I could live with it until I realized that I cannot install other OS on a dynamic disk.

        I can see 7 volumes in Windows Disk Management. C, D, and three volumes that I created. There is another NTFS called SYSTEM and a FAT32 called HP_TOOLS which I am guessing contains all the data of the HP exclusive tools on the computer.

        When I load up HxD, I have “42″ in the exact same place as you. Now, if I change all those to 07, can I get back to Basic Disk. Is that what you did? I am a little apprehensive because you seem to have more than 1 hard disk while I have only 1. However, Tom and I seem to have the same problem. If it works, I just want to be sure, all the HP exclusive tools continue to work, like the volume and playback control. I am using a hp dv7 series laptop, if that helps in anyway. Right now I am backing up my data, in case I need to do a system restore.

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  5. Plaknas on December 29th, 2009 at 7:22 pm

    I meant a full system recovery. Not just a system restore.

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    • Plaknas on December 29th, 2009 at 8:46 pm

      THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!!

      I got back my basic disk again!!!! The only difference was that, the recovery partition was empty and there was another 1MB volume for god knows what reason. THANKS!!!

      I solemnly swear I shall never use dynamic disks ever again, despite the easy method you have provided to convert to basic disks again.

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      • Strangely on December 30th, 2009 at 11:46 am

        @Plaknas
        “I solemnly swear” – I like that! I too have a mental “note to self” to never, ever, contemplate the dynamic disc thing again!

        You seem to have things sorted out fine. As you’ll have guessed, the HxD tool just looks at a single hard drive at a time, so the only benefit to me for having several discs was having a place to copy my files to. When I did the process, I disconnected my backup discs to ensure that there was no possible way that the data could get mangled.

        I also see what you mean by the “recovery partition”. I forgot that several manufacturers will do this by default i.e. split a physical drive into two for backup purposes.

        HP Tools: If you fish around HP support, I’m certain that you can download new copies of the tools with instructions about how to set up a HP drive to the maker’s specifications. You could certainly do it for old Compaq machines from 10 years ago. So I shouldn’t worry about losing them too much. The tricky bit is if they’ve split the BIOS in the old Compaq way. Even so, there should be full instructions and support files for how to do all this.
        Caveat: For the above, you will, of course, need access to a second machine to store files and make setup discs etc.

        The 1Mb Volume: After you’ve set things to “07″, this shows up, as it did for me. It is in fact the hidden database volume that Dynamic Disks use for their lookups. You can delete it once you are done using disc manager and then add the extra space to your standard C-drive, or whatever using the same tool.
        BTW: using Win7, it makes a hidden volume of 100Mb for it’s own use which the disc management tool call a “system, active, primary partition” – so don’t delete that if you are on Win7!!! The standard C-drive is called “boot, page file, crash dump, primary partition” in it’s description.

        As a further aside, I’ve moved away from having multiple OSs on hard drives in the old way (as you are intending to do). I now use a FREE Sun virtualisation tool called VirtualBox, which I can heartily recommend, it being much more stable than Microsoft’s XPMode thing. Give it a try if you are after using other OSs.
        Currently I use it to access my work remotely via a WinXPsp3 window as the Citrix software is only 32-bit and won’t work on my 64-bit Win7. So you can install any program (including anti-virus) that you want into the virtual OS. I also have another XP for sandbox testing or browsing the dark side of the internet(you take ’snapshots’ of the OS when it’s nice and stable, then if it’s infected or corrupted, just delete the current snapshot and use the good, previous one). I also have installations of Fedora11, Mandriva2009.1, Suse11.1, Ubuntu 9.10 as well which can all be fired up at a click.
        the good thing about VirtualBox is that it’s almost platform independant. So you can install it in Linux, Apple, Solaris or Windows, and tyhen run nearly any other (or the same!) OS in a window. You map what drives you want to see in your virtual OS that exist on the HOST PC, or not – as you want. I’ve even mapped virtual drives through to my work OS inside the Citrix client.
        This is all very weird to talk about – a bit like “The Matrix” with programs running inside programs….
        Give it a go. It means you can leave your HP Laptop’s drive alone and won’t have to bother with boot managers etc, which can sometimes go wrong!

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        • Plaknas on December 30th, 2009 at 4:12 pm

          Well yes that 1MB partition was deleted anyway when I returned to Basic Disks. The important thing is everything is normal. I should just remember never to make more than 4 volumes. Yes, there is a system volume of around 100MB, it can’t be deleted. I will definitely try out VirtualBox. Thanks for all the hlp.

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          • Strangely on December 31st, 2009 at 8:48 am

            Glad to help and share my experience. Now spread the word – “Don’t use dynamic disks!!!” ;-)

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  6. winslive on January 3rd, 2010 at 2:15 am

    Modify disk sector is complex compare with use Dynamic Disk Converter. the utility DDC is a choice easy and safe, i chose it. to download: http://www.dynamic-disk.com/download.html

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    • Strangely on January 3rd, 2010 at 11:45 am

      @winslive
      I gave the link for Dynamic Disk Converter in my original post. Thanks for your your information on your successful usage of it, and the extra link.

      Since then, the score is 3-1 for Hex Editing versus Dynamic Disk Converter.

      One person (@David) actually wrecked their disc using Dynamic Disk Converter.

      My experience, once I’d got the hang of the HxD hex editor program and could see what it was up to, was that it was as easy and straightforward as editing a Word document.

      So I think the message is that you pays your money and takes your choice!

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  7. CuLLi on January 4th, 2010 at 1:50 pm

    Hi!

    I have a single 1TB disk and its dynamic after installing Windows Virtual PC X( I have Windows 7. The question is can i install later on it another OS? If yes i leave it dynamic, because i dont want to risk with Dynamic Disk Converter (demo).

    I found this:

    “The problem is whether Windows Vista/2008 and Windows 7 can be installed on dynamic disk or not. In order to guarantee data’s security, their installation program dose not allow operating system is installed on dynamic disk. But, with exception, OS can be installed on the dynamic system volume. For example, first install a Vista to a basic disk, and then change the basic to dynamic disk, and on the dynamic disk you can directly install a OS (such as Windows 7 etc.)”

    Another question: the 4 dynamic partitions that i have on a single disk will be one when i trying to install on it Windows?

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    • Strangely on January 5th, 2010 at 1:49 pm

      Crikey….
      The problem I had was that the OS (Win7), was on a Dynamic Disk, which I now deem to be an invention of the devil himself! You seem to have gone this route…. Oh dear is all I can say.

      But it’s windows itself that makes the disk dynamic. If you remove windows you can do what you like with it. I think that if you resize the volumes, you can install different OSs into the available space. But to me, though, this seems to be inviting boot manager hell as everything in this area isn’t clear cut. Each OS seems to have it’s own preferences and they all want their own boot loader to take over.
      I’ve tried boot managers in the past, and have never been absolutely satisfied. I always go back to…
      KEEP IT SIMPLE!!!

      You also seem to be using Windows Virtual PC. I tried that, and it’s a bit of a hog. Sun’s VirtualBox is a much better virtualisation tool IMHO and virtually any OS can be installed within it. Microsoft’s Virtual PC is a windows only solution, Win7 top end versions only, I think, and you need specific processor extensions to get it to work. Sun’s VirtualBox does not need such high end processors, but obviously will use the power if given it. (There are a few check box settings for AMD-V, IO APIC etc). For Microsoft, I’m pretty sure that you can have only one installation of XPMode within the Virtual PC. It crashed my system when I tried two concurrently. VirtualBox from Sun – well, I’ve had 5 hosted OSs running concurrently AND Microsoft’s XPMode in Virtual PC! You have to start Virtual PC BEFORE VirtualBox as Microsoft sucks all the cycles out and needs heaps of hooks to be available for it’s own use to be able to work. VirtualBox will make do with whatever is available! Now that’s what I call a good program!

      I’ve now removed Virtual PC from my machine because of all of this and just use Sun VirtualBox.

      However, both Virtualisation methods are similar in that the hosted OS is stored as a big file (or two) within the hosting OS’s file system. I haven’t checked out how much registry info is also needed to get them working. But art the end of the day, a file is a file.

      Please explain your remaining questions again, could you, because I’m unclear about what you are trying to do.

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  8. CuLLi on January 5th, 2010 at 5:18 pm

    The question is simple:

    Can i install windows later on it? or it will give this error:

    http://www.dynamic-disk.com/img/install-to-dynamic/install-windows7.gif

    I know that Virtual PC sucks. I heard about VirtualBox but i forgot about it.

    Dynamic Disk Converter let me to converter freely no? But i dont want to risk with it. (i just opened the program but it didnt request me to enter a password)

    Thx for helping!

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  9. CuLLi on January 5th, 2010 at 5:22 pm

    http://www.dynamic-disk.com/img/install-to-dynamic/install-windows7.gif

    This problem occurs only when i trying to install Windows 7 on a dynamic partition that has an installed Windows XP

    I hopping that this is true:

    “The problem is whether Windows Vista/2008 and Windows 7 can be installed on dynamic disk or not. In order to guarantee data’s security, their installation program dose not allow operating system is installed on dynamic disk. But, with exception, OS can be installed on the dynamic system volume. For example, first install a Vista to a basic disk, and then change the basic to dynamic disk, and on the dynamic disk you can directly install a OS (such as Windows 7 etc.)”

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  10. CuLLi on January 5th, 2010 at 5:30 pm

    * This problem occurs only when i trying to install Windows 7 on a dynamic partition that has an installed Windows XP? (this is a question sry :D)

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  11. CuLLi on January 5th, 2010 at 5:49 pm

    And i know why Virtual PC converted my disk in dynamic. When i checked how many free space i have on the virtual drive it shows me ~128gb, the total space of all of my 4 partition. So it unites the free space of all partitions and this is why it converts himself to dynamic :( SUCKY CRAP M$ solution

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    • Strangely on January 5th, 2010 at 6:42 pm

      Hi CuLLi
      As you know I try to stay away from dynamic discs now…!
      I think your screendump is showing the same problem that I got in virtually ALL disc management programs. That is, the disc doesn’t “exist” for the program. This is the reason to stick with “normal” discs, for me.

      The inbuilt M$ disc management program will resize partitions and volumes but not merge data. A program like Acronis will do this, but only on “normal” discs. This is what I’ve found.

      I’m still confused about what you are trying to do. Are you trying to make a dynamic disc WITHIN an XP installation inside Virtual PC?
      Or is it that you want to upgrade XP that’s already on a dynamic disc? Or are you installing an OS into spare space on a dynamic disc?

      My advice, from all the info you’ve given me is to get all your data off the disc onto a spare one. If you haven’t one, get one. Then do a nice clean install and don’t muck around with dynamic discs. Just stick with standard partitions.

      The only reason to use dynamic discs is to use every bit of disc space available. This was fine when discs were <10Gb etc and you may have had 4 of them, but now, terabyte discs are cheap and there's no reason to skimp on space.
      It's a bit like poor man's RAID, because if one disc fails, the WHOLE volume goes caput!!! (If you've spanned a volume across multiple discs)

      Now, I don't even use RAID because the discs rebuilds are dependant on the actual RAID hardware. What if that goes wrong? All data lost just same in that scenario.
      For me the best way to protect data is to have a proper copy.
      On a separate disc.
      In a different machine or hot-pluggable, as I have now, so that there is no permanent electrical connection between the data and it's backup...

      Then put the OS on a nice standard partition.
      .-= Strangely´s last blog ..Lookalikes =-.

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  12. ddlin on January 6th, 2010 at 4:21 am

    Hi CuLLi, do you want to install a Windows7 into your dynamic disk with 4 partitions? Although you have a XP on the dynamic disk, but Windows installer is still not let you use Win7 to replace XP, or install Win7 to other partitions on the dynamic disk. The installer allow Win7 is installed to the disk unless a Vista or Win7 has been installed on the disk rather than XP.
    1. Suggest you connect a new harddisk as a basic disk to your computer for installing Win7, then copy the data on old disk to the new disk.
    2. Use 3td party utility to convert to basic disk.

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  13. CuLLi on January 6th, 2010 at 7:16 am

    I uninstalled Virtual PC, i dont care now about virtual sh*ts!

    I have a single 1TB disk with 4 partitions. (C:,D:,E:,F:). On C: i have Windows 7. I dont want to upgrade to Windows XP or to create/resize/delete partitions.(only format C: when install new OS)

    I just want to install a new Windows 7 in case when my current windows will be f*cked up. But i dont know if it let me install on the dynamic partition (C:) the newer windows.

    U still dont understand? I cant explain more simple like this and sorry for my english :)

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    • Strangely on January 6th, 2010 at 10:31 am

      @CuLLi
      I understand now.
      It won’t let you do that, in my experience. The thing is that the whole disc goes dynamic, not just a partition, and windows manages it. Also, windows likes to install it’s own OSs in the order that they came out from M$ (although you are not doing a retrograde install, I thought I’d mention this). If you manage to get a “spare” OS onto the remaining space, it’ll be dead if the original one goes dead anyway because of the way Windows manages the dynamic disc…
      So if you need a backup, make a proper backup. Make a new image for quick replacement, if you like.

      If you want to install Windows ON TOP of a dead one on your C: drive, I’ve a very strong suspicion that it won’t see any of your partitions because of the dynamic disc nature of volumes. So I think you’ll lose anything on your disc. This is why I call it an invention of the devil! (I haven’t personal experience of this – it’s just what I’ve read etc)

      The other problem is the kind of stuff you’ll have on D:,E:,F: If it’s programs there will be a host of registry entries all referencing the C: drive. Your backup Windows (on G:, say) won’t have any pointers to any data on the D:,E:,F: drives! So it will be all alone, hardly knowing any of the programs around.

      Go with ddlin’s suggestion and get a new spare hard-drive. You could image the whole drive to this, if you wanted, which would be a quick restore solution, although the actual imaging/backup process takes ages with huge discs nowadays.
      If you don’t have the physical space for a new disc in your machine, an eSATA external drive will connect just as fast.

      If you are really into trashing your system because of things that you may do, why not install Win7 as a virtual OS into VirtualBox? This way, do all your experimenting within the sandbox environment of VirtualBox, and if your virtual Win7 goes caput, just roll the whole thing back. It’s an idea, because you don’t seem very confident about the reliability of your Win7 install…. For me, I’ve been using the full RTM 64-bit ultimate version since the first week of August when the code was fixed, and it’s been rock solid for myself, despite all the ways I’ve tried to break it! ;-)

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    • ddlin on January 7th, 2010 at 3:08 am

      You don’t format C: drive, because after formating, the installer may not allow you install the new Windows 7 to a formatted dynamic partition (C:). I think that it isn’t good choce to install system partition to a dynamic disk.

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  14. CuLLi on January 6th, 2010 at 1:53 pm

    “But, with exception, OS can be installed on the dynamic system volume. For example, first install a Vista to a basic disk, and then change the basic to dynamic disk, and on the dynamic disk you can directly install a OS (such as Windows 7 etc.)”

    I found this on Dynamic Disk Converter page. Its the same case that i have with the exception that i have Seven instead of Vista.

    Later i will try to run the Windows 7 install, and i will see if it let me to chose C; when it requests me to

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  15. CuLLi on January 6th, 2010 at 1:55 pm

    Later i will try to run the Windows 7 install, and i will see if it let me to chose C: when it requests me where to install…. (of course i dont will change my current windows)

    (i clicked on Submit accidentally)

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  16. CuLLi on January 6th, 2010 at 2:03 pm

    “But, with exception, OS can be installed on the dynamic system volume. For example, first install a Vista to a basic disk, and then change the basic to dynamic disk, and on the dynamic disk you can directly install a OS (such as Windows 7 etc.)”

    Or this refers only to upgrading to Seven from Vista? :(

    Should i try Dynamic Disk Converter? But its not risky? And the demo version will do this? (i opened the program and didn’t request to me to buy etc. i think its free for personal use)

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  17. ddlin on January 7th, 2010 at 2:53 am

    culli,
    probably you should try to the dynamic disk converter, i saw its site i think it should be no risk, but not free. you could need to contact its support.
    windows 7 home doesn’t support dynamic disk, is your seven home edition?

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  18. CuLLi on January 7th, 2010 at 1:42 pm

    Aha! So only Windows 7 home edition doesnt support dynamic disk? Then ok.. i use Profesional(pirate edition >:) )

    I launched yesterday the Windows 7 install inside my current windows (from iso, not from boot cd because i) and when i selected drive: C it didnt say that i cant install there because its dynamic so its OK. I will not risk to convert it if i cant install OS on it.

    But now i have an another problem. I cant boot cd from DVD-ROM. I have DVD-ROM as first boot device but nothing. My reader only reads 3 seconds the dvd then stops while in POST its say Booting from CD… My DVD-ROM is faulty or because dynamic HDD? :( (in Windows DVD-ROM works well)

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    • Strangely on January 7th, 2010 at 2:05 pm

      Hi
      The first paragraph in my original posting says that dynamic discs are “high-end Windows specific (i.e not home, basic etc)”. So yes, you need the higher licence – the discs are physically identical.

      You’ve also answered your own question about trying to install onto a dynamic disc with your second point as well!! ;-)

      As for your other problem. My guess is that your disc has a corrupt boot file or that it’s a bit damaged or that the drive head needs cleaning. For booting, each “bit” has to be spot-on, so files that can be normally read okay with a drive, aren’t actually so when it comes to the boot process.
      I suggest making another disc (coaster time folks!)

      The dynamic drive won’t affect it. In fact, it’ll probably prompt you to write a whole new install to the whole drive if it can’t find a valid windows installation already extant.

      On a broader issue, if you use pirate software then you’ll undoubtedly get weird problems. Trying to get help with such problems is somewhat hypocritical as well. Now, because Microsoft are so keen to get everyone onto Win7 following the Vista fiasco that they’re virtually giving it away, there’s no reason to use dodgy stuff which is frequently trojan loaded anyway (I had a copy of Melodyne and Ableton Live given to me that were affected in this way). If you want to do stuff for testing or to satisfy yourself the best way to set up your system, it’s perfectly and legally possible to use Win7 for 120 days. Microsoft document it as do a host of news sites. This link will give you some decent pointers.

      Also, there are a host of fully functioning free OSs out there. I have Mandriva, Ubuntu, Suse and Fedora on mine. They all work multimedia out of the box. Browse the web, print and make ISOs with no effort at all. Games are different, butb getting there.
      http://windowssecrets.com/comp/091112/

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  19. CuLLi on January 7th, 2010 at 1:46 pm

    DDC is free for personal use. I opened it few times and it didnt request me to buy…….

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    • Strangely on January 7th, 2010 at 2:10 pm

      I think you’ll find that DDC is like all these disc programs, such as Paragon, Acronis etc.
      They all let you set up a whole sequence of wanted operations, and then you hit a big “Action” type button to make it all happen.
      It’s at this point that you’ll get a prompt that it’s a demo/trial copy. Normally, the program will exit into a DOS type screen and churn away for hours while it does it’s stuff…. I usually leave it for an overnight session e.g. a full disc image of my drive took 18 hours! Yes, 18!!! The bigger the discs get, the longer this process, which used to be a simple thing, now takes.
      I can’t say that DDC will take this long. But using the free HxD to reset my disc to basic took all of 1 minute, once I’d backed up all my data, that is (see above point about the 18 hours…)

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  20. CuLLi on January 7th, 2010 at 2:23 pm

    HxD is not 100% save no? Where to backup 1TB data? i have only a 120GB HDD from my older PC.

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    • Strangely on January 7th, 2010 at 2:37 pm

      HxD worked fine for me and some others who’ve said so above.
      If you really have 1TB of data then you need to get somewhere to back it up. Otherwise, it’s not worth having the data as it can disappear at any moment. Hard drives fail, remember. I’ve had two go in the last 10 years! The servers at my work replace one a fortnight, on average.
      If you don’t value your data, then don’t back it up and don’t worry about it. If you value the data, buy another 1TB disc – or two!
      It’s the old question “How much can you afford to lose?”

      On the other hand, maybe your disc isn’t really full of 1TB of data? Maybe it’s just the files from your 120Gb drive which will be 120Gb absolute maximum?
      Find out exactly what space is being used – sometimes the OS reports wrongly, especially if you have been compromised and the “Alternate Data Streams” have been used in the NTFS by some malware. This can really soak up space and give misleading space values.

      If you have any issues like this, this is what I’ve done in the past.

      Format a drive using FAT. It’ll be really inefficient, but it works.

      Cut/Copy ALL your needed data files to the new drive. Drag and drop will do.

      You’ll find that all the windows NTFS stuff like file ownership and permissions are wiped, as well as other possibly malware NTFS AD Streams.

      Then copy all the files back to where you need them. YOu need to delete the old files first. This only works with data files. System files will suffer.

      It’s a good trick if you ever get bad malware with rootkits and the like. Basically, they don’t work on a FAT filesystem. Then, you make a new clean OS install and copy your data to where it’s needed. The difference in disc space can be quite noticeable.

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  21. mtarkhov on January 9th, 2010 at 1:18 pm

    hi! i just wanted to say HUGE thanks, you just saved my hp laptop hdd from full formatting. this hex way is simple and awesome, i’ll this article with friends.

    thanks, -max

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    • Strangely on January 9th, 2010 at 1:33 pm

      I think that makes it 4:1 in favour of Hex editing with HxD over the commercial DDC!

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      • mtarkhov on January 9th, 2010 at 1:37 pm

        im just amazed how simple is solution :)

        too bad i didnt know this year ago, when i formatted my 320gb drive

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        • Strangely on January 9th, 2010 at 1:57 pm

          You’re right! I was pretty scared before I started (hence the laborious backups etc), but in actual fact, it IS so easy, and is a no-brainer as long as you’re careful and precise.

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  23. smithee on January 25th, 2010 at 11:45 pm

    THANK YOU!!! after the partitioning gone wrong I thought I had offically done it this time and bricked yet another hd. Alas I find this simple and easy little way around when everybody else says I was screwed!! so THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU! changing just three little 42’s to 07’s and voila! this laptop is the bane of my existence, but it has survived a tumble down an entire flight of stairs among other catastrophes haha!

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    • Strangely on January 26th, 2010 at 3:40 pm

      Tee-hee.
      Glad to help – so spread the word.

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