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Good News on Google Scams – Consumers Get Money From FTC

Google Treasure Chest Pay Back to Innocent, Duped, Scammed Consumers

FTC Issues Cheques for Google Scams

FTC Issues Cheques for People Duped by Google Scams

It was over three years ago that I first came across a scam, centred around Pacific Webworks (PWW), mainly under the Google Treasure Chest and Google Money Tree monikers.  As I delved deeper, along with other folks, we came across the true scale of the scam.  Our researches then took us into similar scams run by Jesse Willms, all using the same modus operandi of:

  • negative option marketing
  • illegal cash withdrawals from bank accounts
  • a myriad network of affiliates
  • fake or holding addresses, many in foreign countries outside the normal laws, that opened and closed rapidly allowing consumers no come-back
  • illegal medical or wealth claims
  • offshore banking, now known following the recent banking scandals to be heavily centred around the City of London

We always recommended that consumers issue a credit card charge-back against PWW and Willms.  This is the only way to stop the withdrawals and to counter the “businesses” operations at source.   And it worked!

Yesterday, the USA’s FTC issued a statement as well as money in the form of cheques to all consumers known to have been defrauded by PWW and others in the Google Treasure Chest/Money Tree scam.  Their statement is here: FTC Returns More than $2 Million to Buyers of the “Google Money Tree” Work-at-Home Scam.  They say,

Under a settlement agreement with the FTC, the defendants are banned from selling products through “negative option” transactions, in which the seller interprets consumers’ silence or inaction as permission to charge them, and are also prohibited from making misleading or unsupported claims while marketing or selling any product or service. The settlement also required the defendants to surrender cash and other assets, and these are now being used by the FTC to refund consumers who bought the “Google Money Tree,” “Google Pro,” or “Google Treasure Chest” products.

They also include instructions for people who haven’t yet claimed – so if you were conned into getting rich with Google or similar, contact them now and get at least part of your money back!  This is what they said,

The checks will be mailed by an administrator working for the FTC. Consumers who made purchases from “Google Money Tree,” “Google Pro,” or “Google Treasure Chest” will receive approximately $24.50.  Consumers who have questions, or who have not yet filed a complaint with the FTC and wish to do so, should call the Redress Administrator, Gilardi & Co. LLC, toll free, at 1-877-226-2847. Consumers seeking general information about the FTC’s redress program may visit the FTC’s refunds website.  The FTC never requires consumers to pay money or provide information before redress checks can be cashed.

Checks will be mailed on September 11, 2012, and must be cashed on or before November 12, 2012.

So get on in there folks!


Crime Pays, But Not Always – added on 18 Sep 2012

Here’s a reminder of how crime does not pay – the Pacific Webworks share price!

PWW 5yr share history

PWW 5yr share history

Since the successive hits on PWW following our and others’ investigations their share price has languished at around a penny for about half the past year!  Their meteoric rise, right as the depression started to hit, was entirely due to conning vulnerable people in desperate times.

  1. Then folks like me started shouting!
  2. Then Google took note and sued them.
  3. Then the FTC laid charges.
  4. Then they were found to have funny-looking accounts and changed their accountants and management.
  5. Now they’ve had to pay out to the very people who were conned.

So as I just said,

Get on in there folks!


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Fabian Tactics of Google Work At Home Scam Legal Team

Pacific Webworks / Quad Try and Dodge the Issue

Oh What a Tangled Web We Weave...

Oh What a Tangled Web We Weave...

Back in 2009 I stumbled upon a negative option scam for which those involved were sued by Google (and folded with an out-of-court settlement) and were prosecuted by Uncle Sam, losing again.  Initially, I was completely unaware of the depths of deception to which these people would stoop, but then I rapidly discovered the nightmare web that they’d constructed and how difficult it was for ordinary people, duped by slick honest-looking promises, to un-pick themselves from it.

Not only that, I quickly realised that PWW weren’t the only spawn of the devil and that others, like Jesse Willms, were up to very similar tricks.  See:

Methods

The above list of links more-or-less shows how we found out the Pacific Webworks (PWW) story.  They’re by no means the only set of devils in the world trying to scam people, but they’re the one’s I stumbled upon first.  That’s all.

Their business was to set up website templates that their “customers” could use to extract money from their customers by use of the negative option scam.  In effect, they were selling the tools to steal to people, who then had the option of calling it a day or selling the tools to steal on themselves, thus stealing.

To promote it they used mass advertising through paid ads on Google (using the Google and others’ trademarks to make it appear that these offers were endorsed by those referenced), through Quad, which they owned, and fake news or personal information websites (flogs) loaded with follow up ads.  The promotions could be their own, but for the most part it was all done by “affiliates” (their customers) that all took varying degrees of commission for follow-through clicks.

The advertising was managed by Bloosky Interactive that also operated through 3rd parties unsolicited email adverts, spam to you and me.

Underlying it all was the credit card processing business which they also owned (Intellipay) usually through the securecart domain.

All parties involved, except the final folk who didn’t really understand how bent this whole operation was, fully understood the nature of this business.  How could they not? – when they were selling “services” for $1.95 for which they’d get $30 commission!!!

Turn of the Screw

In another twist of deviousness, PWW (run by Bell, Bell, Larsen & Larsen at the time) set up The Quad Group (geddit?) to avoid creditors.  This is how they themselves described it:

In June 2009 we experienced limited merchant account processing capabilities which created a situation where we could not satisfy payables to marketing partners. To generate needed cash in the 2009 second quarter we sold a portion of our hosting portfolio that was in excess of merchant account limitations to The Quad Group, LLC, a related party (the “Quad Group”) for $157,786. Quad Group is owned and managed by current directors, officers and an employee of Pacific WebWorks. We may periodically be required to enter into sale transactions with Quad Group to properly manage our merchant account processing requirements.

Neat huh?

Cuts and Thrusts

So that’s about it, as I currently understand it.  PWW’s managers/owners had customers on two levels, that is;

  1. The direct affiliates and associated advertisers who were enticed into the operation or migrated from other similar schemes via the lure of easy money.  These people used the templates to lure others with promises of easy money, paid as commission for attracting others to run the same schemes.  The schemes didn’t sell anything – except the scheme!  A true pyramid scam!
  2. Duped suckers.  These, numerically the vast majority, soon realised after one or two mysterious withdrawals from their account of amounts around the $79 mark, that it was a scam.

The thrust of the plan was the hope that most people wouldn’t do anything, wouldn’t investigate much and wouldn’t associate with other suckers through embarrassment or whatever, just writing off the episode as one of life’s bad judgements.  Thus PWW would make say, $200 from which all the ads and affiliates would get their cut.

Just Desserts

Statue of Justice

Statue of Justice

Unfortunately for PWW, it didn’t work out quite like that.  Sure they made pots of money for a few years, but they upset too many people and eventually, through the power of communication via the very internet which was their arena,  news of what they were doing became so much that first Google, then Uncle Sam had to act.

Black September

But still the shit kept coming their way.  Just as I’d predicted in my postings (see list above), karma would get them.  On 19 September 2011 this year a class action was brought against the three main bodies behind the scam – Booth Ford v PWW et al – Barbara Ford is to be commended for her patience.  It was 2009 when she first filed for a class action!

In it, we see just how badly PWW have been acting for years.  Section 11, for me, sums it up perfectly!

Booth Ford v PWW et al Section 11

Booth Ford v PWW et al Section 11

So there we have it!  Now where’s the problem?

Rip-off Too Big!!

On 1 December 2011, Quad (who are actually essentially the same people as PWW with an almost similar board make-up – in fact the Google settlement made it plain that wives of the directors had been roped in as well), filed to be removed from the Class Action because they might have ripped off too much from people!  eh??  See QUAD_GROUP_NOTICE_OF_REMOVAL

The essence of their legal Fabian tactic (as I see it) is that:

  1. They scammed people from all over, not just Illinois, so it’s not a valid class action.
  2. They scammed people so much (by over $5m they say), that it’s the wrong court in which they should be tried, so ditch your claim against us!
  3. They scammed people by so much that the class action lawyer’s fees alone will be $9m so same reasoning as point 2!
Quad Group Sums

Quad Group Sums

Their sums in the above court removal document are in this screenshot.  There are others as well.  Of course, Quad (PWW with a different hat on remember) aren’t admitting any liability at all with this, so my use of the words scamming bastards reflects my personal opinions, not a statement of fact.  These opinions are based on the facts that:

  1. Pacific Webworks acquiesced to all of Google’s demands when sued for illegal trademark usage.
  2. Eborn and others lost their case when sued by the Texas AG when using PWW’s templates*, finance processing and networks to scam folks for millions of dollars.
  3. PWW lost their case when sued by Uncle Sam.
  4. PWW admitted filing untrue SEC accounts and changed accountants twice because of this.
  5. One of the accountants was directly related to a PWW director.

It’s noteworthy that the sum of $43m is derived from one “illegal” charge of ~$80 plus one subsequent charge of ~$25 multiplied across the claimed customer count of ~455,000 persons – because I have evidence from people who’ve contacted this site and others that some people had up to half a dozen illegal account withdrawals before they could put on a stop, which implies that the allegedly scammed amount could be much, much higher.

It’s also noteworthy that Quad’s own suppositional sums show high value amounts from this “business” yet for all this time, no dividends were paid and the only way investors in the company could make money was through share price changes.  If you tie this information to the incorrect accounting and familial accountant/director relationships, plus the fact that PWW is largely the same people as Quad, then collusion looks highly likely over this time period and the SEC will quite possibly be knocking following the conclusion to this class action.

With regard to the SEC, the same SEC filing that revealed Quad’s dubious formation also reveals that;

Our client base includes approximately 30,000 active customer accounts. We rely on the efforts of our internal marketing staff and on third party resellers, including our wholly-owned reseller, TradeWorks Marketing, to add accounts to our customer base. – see SEC Link

Well they can’t both be right, can they, Quad?  Is it 455,892 customers in your sums or is it 30,000 in the SEC filing?

Linkages

Copious links are included in the articles referenced by the site references at the beginning of this article so I haven’t had time to re-reference all the above statements.  But they’re there should you wish to look.

I certainly hope that the Fabian tactics don’t work and that people see them for what they are.

Notes & Addendum

*     Eborn et al used website designs very similar to those provided by PWW.   Whether they were exactly the same is a moot point in my view, because like a burglar who learns to house-break from another burglar, the crow-bar used will not be exactly the same crow bar, but it’s the idea of using a crowbar that’s important to the final act of theft.  In other words templates, like crowbars, are just tools.  Eborn’s websites were almost carbon-copies of those from PWW using all the Visual “tools”, the money processing and the affiliate networks that they “employed”.   Many sites (I had a huge list of them and copied images directly from the site before they locked it down) were partly or wholly hosted on pantherssl.com  via Bloosky.  These co-incidences didn’t happen by chance and show intelligent design behind their purpose.  (Thanks Paul!)

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Jesse Willms Banned by Judge from Negative Option Selling – Assets Frozen!

Latest News from Tuesday, Seattle

Jesse Willms Banned by Judge from Negative Option Selling – Assets Frozen!

Frozen Assets

Frozen Assets

CBC (with whom Willms has already had a tussle) in Canada are already broadcasting that local high-school athlete drop-out turned internet businessman of dubious repute, the self-styled and self-publicising entrepreneur & charitable Jesse Willms, has had some shackles applied to his business by the order, by a Seattle court, to freeze his assets (in case they’re needed to payout to his alleged victims and fines) and also to not use the negative option gambit in any of his websites.

See the CBC report (and wonderful video) here:

U.S. judge freezes assets of Alberta internet salesman

CBC report on the FTC lawyer Robert Schroeder saying,

The judge also froze the assets of Willms and his companies

I'm not a Flim-flam guy!

I'm not a Flim-flam guy!

This could be the main reason why CBC say that all his websites (that they know of, at least) are down and that his phone is dead.   I’ve checked and the dismal self-publicity blogs are still running, which they would be I suppose, as they’re not selling anything except the idea that Willms is a “good guy”.  The judge is Marsha J. Pechman, Federal Judge out of the Western District Court of Seattle according to the post I’ve linked to.  It finishes with the words:

While Jesse Willms has not responded much to these accusations, he has hired many firms to engage in a positive PR and SEO campaign and consistently sends out news releases claiming that he has been assisting charities with financial donations. Additionally, there are at least a dozen “blogs” setup by Mr. Willms to counteract the negative press with positive SERPS.

This is exactly what this website and many others have been saying for over a year now!  “Performance Marketing Insider” also states that:

Currently, according to news reports, there is a both a consumer and criminal investigation against Mr. Willms in Canada.

Well this is good! And only fair – fair to the thousands and thousands of people that feel duped by Willms’ activities.  Roll on next year – Willms is scheduled for trial in the U.S. in July 2012.  Should be sooner.

According to the CBC report, we see another aspect of Willms’ doings whereby he very rarely admits to any mistakes or wrong-doings.  It’s always someone else’s fault, in his world.  CBC say;

Willms has blamed unscrupulous business associates who he claims defrauded him by stealing credit card numbers in order to generate commissions with bogus sales.

I say,

What?  All of them?  All $457 million dollars worth?

Pull the other one!

Willms’ local paper, the Edmonton Journal, also reports on the asset-freezing story here.  They don’t say anything new – but it’s nice to keep the locals informed, don’t you think?

All those local charities that Willms has been plugging his exploits with over the past year must surely be examining their credibility in the eyes of their donating public.  This connection (and to fair, the charges are not proven yet) to Willms is starting to look very bad for them, people have long memories and mud does stick.  Ask any politician!

Surely?

Jesse Willms and Nolan Paquet

Jesse Willms (r), in the source of the famous grinning shot.

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Dodgy Robert Allen on Facebook

Who Is Robert Allen?

For an answer to this, see these posts and follow up comments:

These posts are all related either by Robert Allen and/or the email and websites that advertise products like his and others.  To me, they are all scum, although they may not be actually related.

Facebook Advert

FacebookAdforRobertAllen

Facebook Ad for Robert Allen

Today I got a depressingly familiar advert on my Facebook homepage.  This is it here on the left.

echo-news.co.uk version

On checking with TinEye, I found at least one other example of the image at http://www.echo-news.co.uk/resources/images/656796/ which is the one on the right.

Call me mad, but isn’t there something wrong about the three components of the image – the house, car and bloke – they just don’t look right!

I now followed through on the link to see what my 2011 Deam Lifestyle would be like…..

Fake News Site at wbcnewsonline.com

Is Working Online At Home The Next Gold Rush

This news site is called “News11 Today” and is notable for the complete absence of the French newsreader Melissa Therieau!  This is the full screen grab on the right.

It has the tagline:

“Is Working Online At Home The Next Gold Rush”

Unfortunately, the image and caption at the top right of the fake news site have this extract, which I’ve shown on the here below:

News11 blatant Google Lie

News11 blatant Google Lie

News11 blatant Google Lie

And it is a blatant lie!

To para-quote;

“Google have NOT opened their doors and are NOT allowing the public to post links from the comfort of their homes on THEIR website.”

In fact Google have always had a pretty open door policy and allow anyone to post adverts for search or display adverts on their own website for fees.  They have always done it!!!

It’s what they do.

Google is an advert sponsored search engine!!!

It’s how they make their money!

Advert Link – the real monkey.

The whole point of the fake news site “News11 Today” is the promotion of a single advert which they claim is for:

Automated Home Profits.

The Automated Home Profits link actually goes to

wbcnewsonline.com

http://wbcnewsonline.com/business/uk-breaking-news002.php?c1=gb&c2=m&c3=24any&c4=1

Regular readers of these pages will not be surprised to learn that this “business” hides their identity (see my opinion on hidden identity here) – see WHOIS link

And knowledgable and wise internet folk will also not be surprised that the link takes you to a typically gaudy Get-Rich-Quick website, prototing the dubious merits of Robert Allen.  This time it is called… wait for it (drumroll)…

Home Wealth Package

Home Wealth Package - 1st page

Home Wealth Package - 1st page

The actual URL (after a redirect from http://wbcnewsonline.com/business/read-more.php) is http://apply.robertallenswealthpackage.com/?hop=rgamedia&c1=467659339&c2=400444 and it looks like the screenshot on the left.

Amazingly, there are only 5 places remaining!  (This dubious sales tactic is everywhere on the web as well as normal retail – this post I wrote over two days and in the morning there were still 5 places remaining, gosh.)

Now obviously, this is a pile of poo.  But when you try to leave you get:

“The begging prompt” – see here:

Please Don't Go!

You will notice that the cakground has changed….?  This is because the page has redirected to another one already!  It’s:

http://apply.robertallenswealthpackage.com/qualified/

Home Wealth Package - qualified!

Home Wealth Package - qualified!

..which means that trying to close the crap, qualifies me for an e-e-e-even more special offer that allows me to earn up to £379 per day (actually, I won’t get out of bed for less than £380 a day, so they’ve failed on that one).   This is the full page on the left.

An analysis of the page shows the same “loadsa money” girl from the Google Treasure Chest templates and I even spotted one iStockPhoto in the guise of the couple called “Jane & Jeremy C – Liverpool, UK”.

But check the bottom of the page – they carefully state in the smallest font known to mankind that,

Photos used are Not of actual customers.

Well that’s alright then.

Another thing that is obviously alright as it obviously does not seek to decieve is the disclaimer in tiny font at the bottom that states,

Home Wealth Package is not associated with CNN, People and TIME

…despite the prominently displayed logos at the top of the page.  This behaviour also occurred on the first landing page.  See two screenshots below.

This is a common pattern of behaviour for these scam get-rich-quick websites – they almost always have huge random logos of reputable internet businesses which are then diclaimered away in tiny printy at the botoom of the page.

Sign Up & Start Earning!  Rush My Order!

Handily there’s still five “positions” remaining….  Better get one fast, eh?  Clicking the nice large buttons takes me to this screen, where the logo disclaimer is now noticable by its absence!

Home Wealth Package - signup start

Home Wealth Package - signup start

Please note the text at the bottom which states “We respect your privacy and will not rent or share your information with anyone.”   – –  This is NOT what happened when I did this previously (see links at beginning of this post).  At that time my email address was mercilessly spread around like confetti!

Get Started Now!

Click Bank Payment Form

Click Bank Payment Form

Clicking that button takes me to the Click Bank form where I would normally pay my £19.97.

At this point I left but consider what Robert Allen and his marketteers now have, even though I haven’t bought anything…?

  • They have my name.
  • They have my phone number.
  • They have my email address.

Fortunately, I gave my name as Mystic Meg, my phone number is that of Scotland Yard and my email address is my spam harvester.

But for anyone else suckered into this tissue of lies, they’d now be open to even more spam as an absolute minimum.

Co-incidence?

Co-incidentally with my observance of the Facebook advert, I got some email spam this morning onto a little-used email address that wanted to sell me email spam lists by profession! It looks like the start of a new campaign.

This is it with my email xxxx-ed out:

Return-path: <[email protected]>

Envelope-to: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Delivery-date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 18:07:23 -0600

Received: from smtp.sernam.cl ([163.247.58.25] helo=mail.sernam.cl)

by junction.site5.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128)

(Exim 4.69)

(envelope-from <[email protected]>)

id 1PUplC-00085r-Ol

for xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Mon, 20 Dec 2010 18:07:22 -0600

Received: from dockside (66.197.135.92) by mail.sernam.cl (192.168.254.106)

with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.1.436.0; Mon, 20 Dec 2010 21:04:21 -0300

To: <[email protected]>, <[email protected]>, <[email protected]>,

<xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <[email protected]>,

<[email protected]>

Subject: [rft 20] : dentist mailing lists

Reply-To: <[email protected]>

From: rule <[email protected]>

MIME-Version: 1.0

Content-Type: text/plain

Message-ID: <[email protected]>

Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 21:04:21 -0300

Received-SPF: None (CorreoCas2.sernam2k.cl: [email protected]

does not designate permitted sender hosts)

 

Below is a catalog of all our lists and the corresponding prices:

 

note: all lists are optin and sold with unlimited use rights

 

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Any Individual list below $109 ea OR 2 for $179 (Only until Friday)

 

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-> Chiropractic Doctors in the USA

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-> Nursing Homes int the US

-> Pharmaceutical Company Employees

-> Physical/Occupational Therapy Clinics and Therapists in the US

-> Oncology Physicians in the US

-> US Surgery Centers

-> Massage Therapists/Therapy Clinics in America

-> Acupuncturists/clinics in the US

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-> Mental Health Counselors (USA)

-> Optometrists/Clinics (USA)

-> Psychologists (USA)

 

BUSINESS RELATED LISTS

Take any individual list below for just $137 each (Only until Friday)

 

-> Hotels in the USA

-> Realtors in the USA

-> USA Business Database

-> Manufacturer Database (USA)

-> Financial Planner Database (USA)

-> Finance & Professionals Database (USA)

-> Insurance Agents (USA)

-> Canadian Businesses

-> United Kingdom Business Database

-> Media Outlet Contacts (USA)

 

CONSUMER RELATED LISTS

$97 each (only until Fri)

 

-> USA Consumer Database

-> Credit Inquiries Database (USA)

-> American Homeowners

 

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-> Criminal Attorneys in the US

 

 

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What? No Google! Use Robert Allen Instead!

Introduction

Spring, last year, was when I first stumbled upon Pacific WebWorks (PWW) and their nefarious schemes.  That was when I happened upon Google Treasure Chest, one of their many scams.

This then ballooned into a miasma of a web of crime which frankly astonished me.

Then, across the globe, many people fought against the scammers and there have been some small victories when the (mainly USA) authorities have used the law against them.

But as many scribes (e.g. Paul Schlegel) pointed out (e.g. here), it would, and it has all returned.

Okay Subject Please!

June 20th 2008 - Looking Forward to VacationI’ve been trawling through the old posts on this website to see how the websites have changed.  True, Google Treasure Chest has sunk to the bottom of the ocean, but many of the old websites are still around.  They, the suck-in sites for the real ‘products’, divide, broadly, into two camps:

  • Fake blog sites
  • Fake News sites

Most of the fake blogs are gone, but most of the fake news sites are still around!  What has happened is with some very quick coding, all the pointers go to new, non-google type sites.  You can tell that the coding was quick because Google is still there in the hyperlink descriptions!!!

Example

Initial information on a fake News Site from @Not Kevin is here.  He said;

Clicked on the link to Easy Google Profit from this fake news story: http://www.businessgazette.net/finance/article-3910/ and about 6 different sites are loaded through some javascript thing including yoursearchprofits.com seofromhome.com bsadn.pantherssl.com and a few others.

Business Gazette

This is the fake news website here: http://www.businessgazette.net/finance/article-3910/  A screen-dump is shown on the right.
Hover your mouse over the ads or the links in the “Business Gazette” page.  They are all the same and they all point to http://www.businessgazette.net/google/ – Notice the word “GOOGLE” !!! Compared to previously, the links are now slimmed down to one!

Now click the link and it redirects to a really annoying, automatically starting  audio from someone called Ivan Fienney at this website: http://www.ivanblogsecrets.com/campaigns/rgah/IF_1_new.php?linkid=212144&subid=50519&subid2=65513   This link shows all the affiliate IDs etc.

However, if you strip them out, the page will still load from this address, http://www.ivanblogsecrets.com/campaigns/rgah/IF_1_new.php, or  if you type in or click http://www.ivanblogsecrets.com

Ivan the Terrible

If you listen to the smarmy voice, he’ll claim that it’s a real established business, is NOT MLM, is not a Pyramid scheme etc etc.  That’s him on the left.

Q. Where do his links go?

A. They go to something called a “Instant Wealth Program”.  You’ll find that the linking URL is http://212144.msicourse.com/

Q. So who could it be?

A. It’s that slimeball Robert Allen, famed for his spam, famed for his bankrupty, famed for real-estate dodgy deals.

Now Ivan Fienney, if you can stand the audio, claims that it’s not real estate or a scam, and yet, as I made plain last year, in Robert Allen’s own claims he DOES use real estate in one of his “plans”!

If you listen to Ivan until the 8:00 mark, you’ll find that the whole “plan” actually is “posting links on Google”.  Well what a surprise, I’m sure!

And there we have it.  The “Instant Wealth Scheme” is the old, old “make money with Google” scheme again.  Good ol’ Bobby Allen.  Aaah.

Robert Allen – Multiple Streams of Income

Slime Nosed DevilThe quaintly entitled website, http://212144.msicourse.com/, is indeed Robert Allen.  He’s hidden it’s WHOIS details using Moniker Privacy Services.  However, check out the screen-dump below and right (as well as Ivan’s above).

Multiple Streams of Income

He claims various things, like “as seen on TV” (the Aussie one I saw was investigative journalism where he refused to speak and the reporters were bundled out of the room!) or NY Times.  Maybe they are all investigative reports into his scam activities? Maybe they’re all a figment of ol’ Bobby’s fevered imagination?  Who knows?

But what I do know is that one of his merit badges is from “The Reader’s Digest” – who’ve just gone bust!!!  See http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8520243.stm Nice one, Bobby.

Perú > LimaAlso notice that his website uses the famed “countdown timer”, a tactic abrasively commented upon in recent USA court cases against scammers.  If, like me, you’ve been on the page too long, it’ll helpfully prompt you when “time runs out” – and then gives you a whole extra ten minutes to make up your mind.  Gosh.  It’ll even do it again – with another 10 minutes!

I think I’ll pass on all that, if you don’t mind.

Prosper Inc

Robert Allen proudly states that he uses Prosper Inc for his “services”.  They, of course, are from Utah, see their contacts page here: http://www.prosperlearning.com/contact.html

Erroneous statement deleted.  Too many prospers but all info gratefully accepted.. (SP)

Now see the following few examples of complaints and worries:

Further Information

Last year’s post on Robert Allen is here.   Robert G Allen, Grants, and a Credit Card Slimeball.    From all of this, you can probably tell that he’s not on my Xmas Card list!  To confirm this, see various links which expose ol’ Bobby for what he was, and still is!

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