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Facts and Lies: UKIP Checking

Nobody can be bothered to check facts.

UKIP, the Lernaean Hydra of British politics

UKIP Hydra
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For months I have endured a deluge of facts and lies, all leading up to yesterday’s election. (I voted Green – there were only European elections in my area, so no local stuff).  Mostly, it’s all been around UKIP.  They really have stoked the fires, first lit by this government that wasn’t elected and that has done a raft of nasty things never included in their 2010 manifestos.  But the fires against the disadvantaged are really aflame now.

It’s UKIP wot done it guv.  It’s Suzanne Evans talking – click here to pause her waffle.

Tactics

The Chubby Elite

UKIP’s backers are some of the sharpest, wealthiest people in the land.

UKIP’s tactics however, have been to take on all crackpots of all kinds, then, when the fuckwit says something beyond the pale, they evict them.

This has the effect of being news-worthy, and as we in entertainment know, all news is good news.  The normal triumvirate of red, blue and orange have had a few gobshite moments, but UKIP beats them hands down.

The litany of UKIP’s tactics is strewn across the web, but a fairly recent summary and discourse on them can be found on Another Angry Voice (AAV).

Fact Checks #1

As Tom at AAV noted in the link above, UKIP-ers are not fond of reading anything beyond the first few lines of anything and have a raft of weird ideas all   the stuff headed up and analysed with examples, summarised neatly here:

General abuse Confirmation Bias Denial of reality Just making stuff up
Conspiracies Meta-slander Persecution complexes Marxist fearmongering
Talking in absolutes This is a “Hate group” The Censorship fallacy Fascist sentiments
Straw-manning You called us racist Humourlessness Right, I’m definitely voting UKIP now!

It’s all very “lowest common denominator” (LCD) stuff.  Confirmation Bias rules, okay!

 Fact Checks #2

Though I despise UKIP and parties like them, I do try to check facts, from all over and presented by anyone.  Even those that I support get it wrong sometimes.  Question everything!

UKIP’s Suzanne Evans on Radio 4

I heard that Evans had been quoted as saying that UKIP ” had difficulty appealing to the educated, cultured and young” with regard to the voting in London.  It was on the BBC Radio 4 “Today” programme.  You can listen to the whole thing here for the next few days.  If you do a Google search for the phrase, “difficulty appealing to the “educated, cultured and young”” a whole raft of websites, news organisations, social media and news agregation websites are all reporting this very same thing.  The search produced >1000 – here are 3.

This Reddit chat is a notable exception to the broadcast-info-with-impunity-or-checks brigade and also has a link to the interview.  They say she never said it and provide a textual view of the interview.

She Never Said It!

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The trouble is, she never actually said it!  This is my recording of the show, editted down to Suzanne Evans’ interview and compressed for audio clarity before MP3-ing it.

 It’s True – She Never Said It!

Ukip members wait for results of local election in Croydon

So why are all the news sites and almost every Google search result saying that she did?  ( Well almost all – a Reddit chat also says that she never said it. )  The Independent report even has a nicely forlorn UKIP blokey.

In the interview, then interviewer actually says that it was a colleague in London  (not known, not named) who, she said, UKIP “had difficulty appealing to the educated, cultured and young”

 

 Conclusion

Either:

  1. The truth of the matter is that people hardly ever check anything nowadays.
    • The deluge of information is too great.
    • Everyone expects reputable news providers to do properly journalistic background checks.
    • The BBC interviewer never checked.
  2. The truth of the matter is that all news providers are in collusion with the establishment to maintain the neoliberal status quo.
    • The UKIP freaks who commented on AAV are correct in that it is a conspiracy.
    • UKIP freaks are right in that the BBC shows anti-UKIP left-wing bias.

The trouble with #2 is that UKIP contains part of the powerful establishment elite.

  • Farage is a former banker and apart from a host of wealthy backers, the normal tory paper (Daily Telegraph – torygraph in common parlance) is now swapping sides since the tories are not right-wing enough for it’s wealthy  owners, the reclusive, island-owning, tax-avoiding, feudalistic, Sark-criticising (because it won’t allow them to set up a tax haven),  Barclay Brothers.
  • Many other establishment papers likewise share a divisive, right wing, xenophobic stance.
  • The BBC has had rafts of governement enforced right wing management changes (government plants is the phrase).
  • The BBC has given more airtime to Farage than any other panellist on “Question Time” except for Dimbleby.

This leaves #1.

Answer:

Nobody can be bothered to check facts.

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Taliban Torture America

Pfc. Bowe R. Bergdahl, aged 23,

Afghan Soldier Captured: Pfc. Bowe R. Bergdahl, 23, of Ketchum, Idaho

Afghan Soldier Captured: Pfc. Bowe R. Bergdahl, 23, of Ketchum, Idaho

of Ketchum, Idaho, is a member of the 1st Battalion, 501st Parachute Infantry Regiment, 4th Brigade Combat Team, 25th Infantry Division, from Fort Richardson, Alaska.  He was captured in circumstances that aren’t clear and has appeared in a Taliban video (prev at http://articles.latimes.com/2009/jul/20/world/fg-afghan-soldier20), seen world-wide.

So far, it appears he’s been well treated, although three soldiers captured in Iraq by the same mob were all killed, so this must obviously prey on people’s minds.

Torture

(see my rampant post, Americans Love to Torture – OfficialIf you’re offended by it, you’re not listening.)

What I’d like to know, given that in a recent poll, over 50% of Americans think torture is okay, is he one of the 50%?  Are his parents?  Is his battalion commander?  Is US Military spokesman, Capt Jon Stock?  Is Navy Lt. Robert Carr, a spokesman for U.S. forces in Afghanistan?

Capt Stock said this, while condemning the use of the video.   He told Reuters news agency:

“The use of the soldier for propaganda purposes we view as against international law.”

Lt Carr said:

“The Taliban are using the soldier for propaganda purposes”

Illegal Imprisonment and Adherence to International Law

Now some facts.

  • The USA continues to imprison people in Guantanamo Bay without trial or due process.
  • The site in Cuba was obtained illegally and is operated illegally even under the ‘rules’, agreed under duress, of it’s illegal occupation.
  • The USA (& UK) has recently tortured people in strict denial of the rules of the Geneva Convention, their own laws and/or constitutions, and the UN Declaration of Human Rights.

Sad Chickens Roosting

Grim Reaper

Grim Reaper

So while people wring their hands over a very short list of very likely fates for Pte Bergdahl, it’s only karmic retribution for their historical and continuing acts.  They must change, as Obama was wont to say in his electoral campaign.

I say;

  • They cannot continue to act in this way, killing people with scythe-like impunity using robotic planes in some bizarre kids computer shoot-up.
  • They cannot continue to act towards people in flagrant disregard of their own constitution and laws.
  • They cannot even think that torture, of any kind, is okay.  Not just “don’t do it” – No!  They must not even think it.

Because what happens is that it’s all thrown back, tenfold.

Justice

New York´s Liberty Island - Statue Of Liberty & Seagull

A Beacon

Like Justice, being “seen to be done”, US actions, at home and abroad must be above reproach.

They must be a beacon – a pure demonstration of good civil behaviour, in words, thoughts and deedsThe beacon light though, is very dim.

Eagle Peak

Something like this was said by Shakyamuni – the Buddha of legend.  In Chapter 16 of “The Lotus Sutra”, a compendium of his later sayings, he said, in qualifying what it takes to be a Buddha (which anyone can be, let it be known):

When living beings become truly faithful, honest and upright, gentle in intent, single-mindedly desiring to see the Buddha, not hesitating even if it costs them their own lives, then I and the assembly of monks appear together at Eagle Peak.

Eagle Peak represents a place of happiness for all sentient beings.  It means that if you behave like that, happiness will undoubtedly appear – you will be a Buddha.

If you don’t, then shit happens.

The USA & UK are most definitely NOT “honest and upright, gentle in intent”, and the shit is happening.

Of course, the Taliban and all misogynist, small-minded folk like that are the absolute pits.  And yes, shit is happening for them as well! It’s not all hunky-dory by a long chalk.

The point is, that we (meaning the USA & UK) do not have to act like them.  The surest way to prove the justness of your cause is to behave properly.  In short,

  1. Don’t bomb haphazardly killing all in sight with a lame excuse.
  2. Don’t torture
  3. Don’t disregard your own laws and international laws of behaviour

Pfc. Bowe R. Bergdahl might then have a chance.

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Obama Should learn from the Taliban

Book on the TalibanIn the above video, shot with a mobile phone and first reported at the beginning of April this year, some blokes, watched by a load of other blokes, whip a young woman for breaking some law.

At that time, the Taliban blokes (for it is them) had just come to an agreement with the Pakistan government to bring their law to many remote areas in that country – here’s it’s the Swat Valley.  The West, at that time, was appalled by this apparent acceptance of summary brutality and law by the local populations.

Two months later and the West need not have worried.

By the power of the mobile phone, the video has been swapped around so much that now there has been a sea change in public opinion in Pakistan.  They don’t want summary Islamic justice.  They don’t want their current life and society overtaken by a load of misogynist nutters.

It was this simple video that’s done this.  There was no blood, she didn’t die – but it amounts to TORTURE, that’s what it is – and the people have rejected it!


Now consider Obama, who has refused to release pictures of tortured prisoners, captured and imprisoned without trial in strict denial of the rules enshrined in both his country’s constitution and also, against the Universal Declaration of Human Rights which his country signed in 1948.

Learn from the Taliban, Mr President.  It won’t be that painful.

  • Print the pictures.
  • Close the illegal prisons.
  • Try the prisoners for their crimes or release them.

In essence, live by the laws you so apparently cherish.

Revealing TruthsIf the people see torture, done in their name, on their land, then my guess is that a lot less than the 52% of your noble, freedom-loving country would condone it’s usage, and you can return to a position of trust and the beacon of hope expressed in your election speeches.

This is the position in Pakistan.  People really don’t like torture; uneducated and poor, middle class and college graduates.  All people feel the same when presented with it.

It’s just so obviously wrong.

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Jeremy Paxman continuously Flabbergasted

Harriet Harman

For the last week or so, the highly paid Paxman has become obviously annoyed at the continuous devious behaviour from every politician he’s interviewed.  They all say “we understand the public’s anguish” – but, as Paxman notes, they do fuck all about it.  As many have noted, if you go into a shop and steal a bag of sugar and get caught, just giving the sugar back to the shop isn’t the normal chain of events – but that’s what MPs do!

Nicky Campbell and Harriet Harman

Two days ago, stuck in my bed, I had to suffer the even-paced utterances of Harriet Harman as she shape-shifted around Paxman’s questions.  This followed an earlier episode on the same day when she did the same on a live phonein on early morning Radio Five Live with the effervescent  Nicky Campbell.  Listen here to the full 45 mins

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Paxman versus Harman

Paxman’s interview is here for a week or so until it’s pulled;  news.bbc.co.uk…8078715

If you can survive it, just watch the whole Harman (and other pieces) in the full programme, and wait for the round-up which you can see here;

www.bbc.co.uk…b00kwqxx_01_06_2009/

At precisely 35:30 into the show (you can fast-fwd if you like), Paxman tries to summarise exactly what Harman had just said in the monotonous sanctimonious ramblings…. Funny as fuck.  Here’s what he said:

“Labour deputy leader Harriet Harman told this programme… er, I don’t exactly what she told us… er, that public support… we haven’t got exactly what… we can’t tell precisely what we are proposing to repeat of what she said, but it was very interesting”.

The Guardian’s Media Monkey also picked up on this here, Harman’s all too forgettable for Paxo.  In total that day, I had 1.25 hours of Harman’s drifting and side-shifting.  And like Paxman, I can’t remember a single word or any single point that was made because of the verbal force-field in place.

William Hague versus Paxman

The latest episode of  tax sorry, question, sorry ‘tax question avoidance’ from Paxman was by ‘Don’t be Vague, ask for’ William Hague.  See all two minutes of smirking squirming here:

news.bbc.co.uk…8080379

Paxman’s interview with Hague has now made it onto YouTube:

I still remember him as young twat at an old Tory conference…

And this is exactly the problem that the public have with the politicians.  See my posting yesterday on this.  It’s just continuous rampant corruption, denial and avoidance.  Paxman is right to be flabbergasted.  If he can’t get an answer, then what hope Joe Bloggs (Joe the Plumber for my US readers).  Most military and police force members feel the same way.  Without their backing, if they don’t sort themselves out, we can easily bring in a guillotine.  We’ve had a civil war here.  We’ve chopped the heads off monarchs.  Britain isn’t such a nicey-nicey place to be when it’s riled up.  There are 30 million that think like this and 30 million too scared to disagree.

Conclusion

I don’t think Paxman’s losing it.  He is overpaid for what he does but I don’t think his powers have gone.  The problem is the politicians’ behaviour and Paxman’s exasperation at their intransigence at coming anywhere near to the public’s expectations.  It’s on their heads in the long run.  They’ve been told enough.

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Prime Minister and Expenses

Too Little, Too Late, Gordon Brown

This morning, PM Gordon Brown told Andrew Marr that he wants to ‘clean up’ parliament.
He wants a ‘code of conduct’ for MPs to follow.
The thing is, there’s already a code of conduct – it’s called the law!

All we,  ‘the people’ want, is to have reasonable laws and for people to follow them, equally.

Special Privileges

Gordon BrownMembers of Parliament are special. They have special responsibilities. In a nutshell, they represent us in the speaking house, the parler-a-ment. This simple fact makes them special. Within the speaking house they are allowed to say quite derogatory things about each other which in the outside world could be libellous. But this is the nature of the game. This is the special status that exists in Parliament for our representatives so that they can speak without fear or hindrance.

This simple freedom seems to have been forgotten.

Maelstrom

Maelstrom

Now they must all watch what they say, toe the party line, think of the future and their reputations…… Big Brother watches everything.

Now they think that they need extra-special status and self-justifiably grab whatever beneifits and remunerations they ‘think’ they are due.

This is the show we have now stumbled upon; evading tax, feathered nests and the nepotic practices of a third rate African despot, that is.

Greed

From left to right of the ruling classes, they’re greedily identical. Depending on how much wealth they currently have, their aspirations to further wealth naturally vary – but the greed in their minds is the same.

Shocked

The PM Gordon Brown has said he’s appalled and shocked by the revelations – despite being one of the ringleaders during the information-blocking process!   Now, in a further devious twist, in the interview, he’s not-so-subtly trying to shift the focus away from MPs again!

He just can’t stop it, can he?   He’s in total denial and his brain is in action debt!  Fiddle, fiddle,  fiddle.  Hide, hide, hide.

So yet another ‘code of conduct’ is supposed to be the panacea!   It’s just staggering ineptitude and a total denial of the events in recent financial history where our money systems, all obeying a ‘code of conduct’, all visibly folded. And he wants more of the same?

He says that he,

“…wants a clean-up of all public institutions – such as the NHS and the BBC”

This is the “smoke and mirrors” distraction, which could be all well and good, especially in the champagne-bottle-strewn corridors of the BBC.  Unfortunately for Brown, these institutions are already ‘code of conduct’-ed to the gunwales!

We need a Code of Conduct Czar we’ve got so many!  Call it OfCodeOfConduct!  OfCon for short, with the emphasis on Con.

NHS?

All changes since 1997 have been a Brown/Blair initiative. This means it’s their idea and their fault.  He can’t pass the buck!

Like MPs expenses, the power for change is as directly in his hands now as it always has been, and it’s disingenuous to shift blame again. He’s Prime Minister for fuck’s sake! If he can’t do it, what’s he for?

In fact, it reveals the depths of psychotic deception to which our leader, Gordon Brown, will plummet in a vain quest to change Britain (to what?) before the axe falls on him. He’s frantically grasping at straws, trying to stay afloat in the maelstrom of his own creation and management.

This psychosis means that all his good works (and to be fair, there have been many); minimum wage, better family allowances, better health service, 12 week operation wait, new hospitals, better child care, rail electrification etcthey are all as nought.

  • They’ve been completely cancelled out by the institutionalised corrupt practices at all levels of society under his watch.
  • Most will inevitably be rolled back by some future government, disguised as part of a ‘wider process of reform’, as they’ll say.

And if this future government is a bunch of Nazis then we’re in big do-dos.

Because the bad things that Brown & Blair have started – e.g.

  • the police state
  • surveillance everywhere
  • shoot to kill
  • war on terror
  • arrest and detention without trial for indefinite periods
  • torture
  • kidnapping
  • lies to further a war
  • massive reliance on databases and their subsequent loss!

…many of these won’t be rolled back. It’s that chip-chip away at freedom. Eventually when it’s all gone, then there’ll be a realisation. And if we don’t fall into the Maelstrom, there’ll be a bloodbath in it’s place…

What Must be Done?

Simple really.

  • Sack people who are incompetent with minimum compensation.    This means No Payment For Failure.  Make sure that this applies to politicians and all hitherto cushioned leaders, business or otherwise.  It’s what 99% of the population have to endure.  Enforce this by passage of a “Corrupt Payments and Bonus Law”.
  • Pass a law to retrospectively get money off the corrupt and incompetant bankers.  This is what we’d do in the fight against organised crime.  It’s what we do against dole-scroungers who’ve abused the system.   This is what we do against tax-evaders.   It’s the same thing – Just do it!
  • No more Codes of Conduct.  Make proper, morally clear, enforceable law.
  • An end to all priviledge.  Equal treatment under the law and one law for everyone.
  • Use the army to get our money back from Tax Havens.  Give them something useful to do instead of propping up heroin production in Afghanistan…  It’s our money that’s been siphoned off – go and get it.   We won’t need an ‘International Banking Code of Conduct’ for the future.  I mean, what would little Cayman, Bermuda and Lichenstein really do if a troop from Norton Manor Camp pull up at the front door of the ****** Bank Of ***** and ask for all our money back?  If the army can’t do that and protect the wealth of our nation, then retire them.

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