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Why Throw Away History?

The Web, History, Link-rot & Crawling Chaos

A Hockey Stick

A Hockey Stick, nothing to do with Climate Change

Again, while checking for link-rot, I came across a broken link on the Crawling Chaos website.  Specifically, it’s when I deal with our introduction to Factory Records and that I played with a hockey team called Northumbria alongside the Tyne Tees Television (TTTV) newsreader called Rod Griffith.

I included a referral link to their old website, http://www.warrm.demon.co.uk/history.htm.  This is now dead so I’ve used the Wayback Machine’s link from 2001 on the page instead.  Using a well known search engine (he he), I now find they are called Whitley Bay & Tynemouth Hockey Club with this website.

1902

It is definitely the same club as there’s another link to this website, a place-marker in a compendium of clubs that has a single piece of history on it – it says “founded 1902”!!

Disappointing

It’s actually more than disappointing, it’s very sad.  There’s a fair bit of history to the club and all they can publicly pronounce is “founded 1902″…   It should be more than this.  The Toon has a history page, only from WW2 mind, but it’s more than nothing.  Spurs like-wise, and it goes back to the 19th century!

It all adds to the guts of what makes a club.

It’s not hard to compile a history for the web.  Once someone has typed it out, it’s not going to change much is it?  It’s history!  The typed words can be copied anywhere.  Any, where.  Even here, say….

A Short History of Whitley Bay & Tynemouth Hockey Club (founded 1902)

From an article dated June 16, 2004 here.

Tynemouth Hockey Club has recently celebrated its centenary year. The club began life playing under the name of North Durham in 1902. At that time most of the players were clergymen who travelled to away games in a horse drawn carriage. Later in the century the club changed its name to Northumbria and played its home games at the Miners’ Welfare ground in the village of Backworth. The club made another move to North Shields where they became known as Tynemouth Hockey Club and played on the ground used by Tynemouth Cricket Club. In 1989 an astro pitch was laid at Wallsend Sports Centre so the club transferred itself to another new location but retained the name of Tynemouth Hockey Club.

In November 1997 Tynemouth Hockey Club moved from Wallsend Sports Centre to two new astro pitches at The Parks, North Shields.

Conclusion

Thanks to The Parks and Ali Gordon for corresponding with a gentleman from Inverness who has sent this photograph to the club. As far as we know it is the oldest surviving photograph that we possess. Durham North as the men’s team was originally called, began life in 1902. The first match was played on 18th October 1902 against Novocastrians. We lost 4-1!

Thanks to The Parks and Ali Gordon for corresponding with a
gentleman from Inverness who has sent this photograph to the club.
As far as we know it is the oldest surviving photograph that we
possess. Durham North as the men’s team was originally called, began
life in 1902. The first match was played on 18th October 1902 against
Novocastrians. We lost 4-1!

This is a very short history, but it’s better than the nothing that is currently shown.  I played for Northumbria (as it then was) at Backworth & Tynemouth from 1972 to around 1980, not too regularly, but enough to feel part of it.

There are some documents that are downloadable, but nothing that exposes the past to a wider audience.  They are nearly all either Word or PDF files!  Totally un-crawlable with the web search spiders.  For instance, in the newsletter for October 2015 here, we find this wonderful photo.

Because it’s wrapped inside a PDF file, no-one would ever know.

I’ve copied it, and the text, as a caption (I’ll pull it, if asked, but one has to consider if my reasons are valid first).  Now, I know my website will be crawled within a few minutes of me posting – this means that all the text will be available for all, the small amount of history from the original website too.

And the Novocastrians as mentioned in the photo?  Yep.  I played against them too.  It’s all fun and it’s a part of many folks’ lives especially in an age of increasing information and decreasing paper records.

This stuff needs to be public and kept else what is a society?  Sometimes looking and talking about history is very comforting.  It’s what some people do when they stop playing, since sport is for younger folks.

Now, because of my SEO skills and experience I can guarantee that if someone searches for Whitley Bay & Tynemouth Hockey Club, Backworth hockey, Tynemouth hockey, Rod Griffith or Novocastrians (say), this page will be there for all to find.

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On top of that:

  • There seems to be no effort on the part of Pitchero who host the website or whoever else may maintain the website to keep links alive.  The site is riddled with 404s and inconsistencies.
  • Some document files are PDF, some are DOC, some are XLS files.  Some are links to a Pitchero login so are unavailable, except if you login with Facebook ffs!
  • A major part of a sports club is the fixture list.  Some links don’t point to where they should or else the template hasn’t been updated from the 2012-3 season.  Some are XLS files with the same info appearing on other webpages.

It is all a mess, primarily supporting the sponsors’ huge logos and it’s all very sad.  Maybe there’s some information overload for the webmaster, maybe it’s internal politics, maybe too many people have their fingers in the web pie?

It could be so much better, cleaner, consistent and useful to a club member.  I see Steve Troup just joined as a webmaster, hopefully he can tidy things up and get some club history sorted out!

Rant over.

 

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When We Woz Young

I was fishing around the inter-web-tubes today and came across an old show detailing the swearing and start of punk, and more.  A good listen and viewing, watching ourselves get older and older….    The guy at 1:11 is Tony Bulley, who led us (as the band Crawling Chaos) in a roundabout way into the welcoming (surely shome mishtake) arms of Tony Wilson and Factory Records.

Was it a good thing?  Who knows?  Could we have done better?  Probably.   But it is what it is, it is.

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It Was a Way Out of The Crawling Chaos for Joy Division…

Golden Syrup

Lyles Lion Logo

Lyles Lion Logo

Years ago, when I was a lad, my mum used to make us all porridge for breakfast in winter.  On the top, I’d spiral a big dollop of Lyle’s Golden Syrup and then, while eating the porridge, I’d read the tin.

Yes!  There was a different flapjack recipe every time!

But also, as a constant reference point, next to a prostrate, flies-ridden lion, were the words;

‘Out of the strong came forth sweetness’

– which puzzled me immensely as a child.

Guardian

Perhaps Paul Lester in yesterday’s Guardian Online was thinking the same about Joy Division!  In an article about a new band called ‘Detachments’, is a phrase (remarkably similar to one he made last June), which said;

…it was a way out of the crawling chaos for Joy Division after their singer’s suicide; a design for a new life.

Factory Slips

I see a Freudian slip going on here, or a desperate bit of journalese as a way to stick all the old Factory Records acts together.  Either way, it gives me another chance to point this out!

It also gives me a chance to mirror, the Lyles Golden Syrup phrase and Lester’s continuing co-joining of Crawling Chaos & Joy Division in the same sentence.  I wonder if Paul Lester had syrup on his porridge?  Hmmm.  Out of the strong came forth…

I’m leaning towards Freud.  Because as you know, Freud said;

there are no slips!

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Here’s Someone with a Lot of Sense

Strangely post on September 26th, 2009
Posted in Internet Tags: , , , , , , , , , , , ,

http://awisebirthgiver.blogspot.com/2009/09/best-band-on-factory-records.html

Dead right.

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What is the Creative Conciousness? Answer – Courage.

Art and creativity come in many forms but since the internet arrived with the huge explosion in community sites and the easy interchange of prior art, maybe the concept of creativity needs re-defining.

Prior art like:

  • a 20 foot oil canvas viewed in a museum
  • a paper book like Harry Potter, read in bed,
  • a film made for viewing on a huge screen in a darkened cinema,
  • a tv episode made to be seen on a standard monitor,
  • a band of musicians playing live in the flesh,
  • a recording of musicians played through a decent system

– all look and sounds different when seen or heard through on a tiny screen or through the tinny speakers of your average PC, laptop or phone.

The relative merits are debatable, of course, considering increased publicity, but the fact is that someone created the original art. Now however, most of the world’s creativity seems to exist solely in the realm of comment and chat using the art as a throwaway metaphore for the “higher purpose” of chattering. :-?

This point was brought home to me by a recent “conversation” on a community media site where the works of Crawling Chaos were dumped and yabbered over. How do I know? Dah! Google and IP logs…

A journo, called Jason Heller, made a piece extolling the remarkable virtues of the first Crawling Chaos vinyl issue and the band’s unquenchable appetite to go against the flow. Quoting liberally from the Crawling Chaos site Jason made some very positive and agreeable comments with a good tenor to the article. Despite a bit of cut & paste, he included a link to his source material – so at least he wasn’t page stealing. He managed to be creative with his prose, and a bit wobbly on influences and truth. Whatever. What he’s doing is nothing special – millions do it, it’s what community sites do! – apart from hoping someone will click on a few ads…

Now, a quick check reveals that the piece and the site are covered in copyright statements for Onion Inc and Omniture. However, not a trace or whisper exists that Crawling Chaos still actually own their music! It seems that people think that art, records and music just appears magically for people’s titillation – a kind of “Creative Commons“. Except it’s not.

Basically, Jason’s “piece” serves as an area where Crawling Chaos became an adjunct to a bout of mutual masturbation and in the centre sits Jason covered in jism and glorifying in the basal annoyances that Crawling Chaos engendered.

This whole community website thing is like this, so nothing new. I let Jason know in my own way with a comment to the post where subsequently, they removed the “reply” link and also my inserted link to our copyright page.

Then the true nature of creativity was revealed. Courage.

Jason pulled his post from his most recent posts list! 8-O

However, the post still exists with the link above and still (as of 31/5/2008), is on the most recent posts for the blog! The links to the copyrighted Crawling Chaos music still exist, boldly, and in the html code. As I stated previously, Onion Inc seems to be claiming ownership of this. I tell you, they’re all a bunch of cunts. Maybe I should page harvest them and suck a bit of advertising off them… :twisted: See how they like it.

Here’s what should’ve happened….

Jason finds a Crawling Chaos record.
"Wow!"  He says.  "This is good!"
Jason checks the web for info on Crawling Chaos.
Jason uses contact form on Crawling Chaos website
Jason asks to use a piece of CC music on a posting of his.
Crawling Chaos say yes, if copyright acknowledgement is made.
Jason does his post in his own creative way.
People keep on wanking etc etc

Everyone is happy, the world keeps turning .

Instead of that, by his subsequent actions Jason is implying denied responsibility for his previous words and actions. Everything has cause and effect. It’s the Buddhist way.

Courage, like freedom, can be a strange thing.

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			<h2 class="bm"><a href="/content/blog/vinyl_retentive_crawling_chaos">Vinyl Retentive: Crawling Chaos</a></h2>
			<div class="tm mt">posted by: <b><a href="author/jheller">Jason Heller</a></b></div>
			<div class="smalltext">May 20, 2008 - 4:49pm</div><br/>
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				<i>In Vinyl Retentive, A.V. Clubbers share what we find while crate-digging in our own houses.</i><p><p><p>
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			</p><!--[image:79767]--><p><p><p><b>Crawling Chaos</b><p><p><p><b>”Sex Machine” b/w “Berlin”</b><p><p><p><b>Factory Records, 1980</b><p><p><p><b>Format:</b> 7-inch single<p><p><p><b>File Under:</b> The unsexiest booty jam ever<p><p><p>Seeing as how I covered James Brown in <a href="http://www.avclub.com/content/blog/vinyl_retentive_james_brown">last week’s Vinyl Retentive</a>, it seems perversely fitting to follow it up with Crawling Chaos’ “Sex Machine.” Nope, it’s not a cover of JB’s funk anthem—in fact, if his “Sex Machine” is a stiff dose of aural Viagra, Crawling Chaos’ is the musical equivalent of getting punched in the groin. While being forced to watch barnyard porn. Starring your mom and dad.<p><p><p>
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<p><p><p>“It was (and still is) an unwritten policy,” it is, well, written on <a href="http://crawlingchaos.co.uk/myths">the band’s website</a>, “for Crawling Chaos and their ilk to annoy as many people as possible.” While it’s not exactly clear who their ilk are, the group’s two core members—Doomage Khult and Strangely Perfect, the latter being maybe my favorite punkonym next to Will Shatter—were spurred to form Crawling Chaos by the British punk explosion of the ’70s. Further inspired by proto-industrial noise terrorists like Cabaret Voltaire and Throbbing Gristle—as well as the macabre prose of H.P. Lovecraft, whose “The Crawling Chaos” might have had some small influence on the band’s name—Khult and Perfect did, as promised, annoy. In fact, the band only barely managed to get signed to the legendary Factory Records; allegedly, the decision was hotly debated by Factory head Tony Wilson and partner Rob Gretton. It didn’t help band-label relations much when Factory wound up having to siphon money from Joy Division profits to press the Crawling Chaos’ debut single, “Sex Machine,” which came in an embossed, expensive-to-produce sleeve.<p><p><p>
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			</p><!--[image:79757]--><p><p><p>At the time, Factory had just three bands on its roster: The Durutti Column, A Certain Ratio, and the recently beheaded Joy Division (with OMD already having defected to a major label). As relatively eclectic as that bunch was, Crawling Chaos didn’t fit in with any of them. Even the sexiest of the Factory bands, A Certain Ratio, bore the label’s trademark cold, clean lines and antiseptic aura. Crawling Chaos, though, was a fucking wreck. Gangling, ungainly, sloppy, self-sabotaging, murderously humorous, and perhaps mildly insane, the group appropriated the title of one of James Brown’s most archetypal funk tracks and basically took a big dump on it. Clinical detachment was the name of the game when it came to that era’s synthesizer-backed post-punk, but Crawling Chaos was about as robotically aloof as a rusty lawnmower—and “Sex Machine” is a dripping, glorious, psychosexual phantasmagoria worthy of Ballard or Cronenberg (or a precociously perverted 11-year-old). The synths are demented, the singing shrill, the beats nearly brain-dead—but it’s the lyrics alone that are worth a trip to the nut farm:<p><p><p><b>I’ve got a brand new pair of genes<p>I’ve been to the doc, he’s got the means<p>He’s turned me into a sex machine<p>He’s given me a pair of enormous balls<p>That could even fill the Festival Hall<p>With schoolgirls screaming for more and more<p><p><p>I'm going to the doctor’s<p>It’s easy you see<p>No need for operations<p>And you’ll know how it feels<p><p><p>Tomorrow I get my hands done<p>With fifteen fingers and a phallic thumb<p>I’ll rattle the girls till they come and come<p>The stomach lining change has really done the trick<p>It brews alcohol and gives me kicks<p>And makes me have supersonic sicks<p><p><p>I’ve got pricks on my toes and one on my nose<p>And some on my back that nobody knows<p>But the one I got first still grows and grows<p>I’ve got a set of clits hanging in my ear<p>I’ve been to the doc to get a smear<p>He told me I had gonorrhea<p><p><p>A nuclear prick is hidden up my bum<p>I tried it on a lady who likes some fun<p>And she got blown to kingdom come</b><p><p><p>Still, “Sex Machine”—as refreshingly anti-pop and counter-aphrodisiac as it is—sounds like Depeche Mode compared to the single’s B-side, “Berlin.” The name of that city at that time bore connotations of Lou Reed, David Bowie, and the Teutonic lockstep of Krautrock, which were all clear influences on Crawling Chaos. And they all melt into a dissonant mess all over “Berlin,” an aimlessly menacing jam that limps and burps along for seven torturous minutes before succumbing to some kind of sonic gangrene. In other words: It’s fantastic.<p><p><p>
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<p><p><p><b>Current whereabouts:</b> Crawling Chaos’ relationship with Factory went south soon after the release of their debut album, 1982’s equally sick and surreal <i>The Gas Chair</i>. From there the band started releasing records on its own label, Foetus (no relation to Jim Thirlwell’s pioneering industrial project of the same name, although it’s not hard to imagine Thirlwell and Crawling Chaos being mutual admirers). Khult and Perfect gradually drifted away from the group, although they reunited in 2003 for a new full-length titled <i>Homunculus Equinox</i>.<p><p><p>While loved by ’90s indie-pop luminaries <a href="http://www.avclub.com/content/node/77971">Unrest</a>, who covered “Sex Machine” on a Sub Pop single in 1991, Crawling Chaos has sadly been forgotten in favor of their more somber and earnest post-punk contemporaries. When Factory’s resident Joy Division clones, Crispy Ambulance, are more fondly remembered than you are, you know you’ve definitely annoyed all the right people—like, for instance, critic Simon Reynolds, who figured Crawling Chaos didn’t even warrant a mention in his definitive post-punk history, <i>Rip It Up And Start Again</i>. Despite the Factory-mania that followed <i>24 Hour Party People</i>—not to mention the whole post-punk revival of the aughts—Crawling Chaos doesn’t even have its own Wikipedia entry. Apparently undaunted, Khult and Perfect <a href="http://crawlingchaos.co.uk/?p=105"> are still plugging away</a>. <p><p><p><b>Availability:</b> The “Sex Machine”/“Berlin” 45 is currently on sale for between $40 and $70 on the Internet, but both sides showed up as bonus tracks on the recent CD reissue of <i>The Gas Chair</i>.<p>			</div>
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