I got a ping this morning from a website called cleanup-registry.net It arrived because I’d been referenced as a website in the network setup using the plugin, “Related Websites” by the Blog Traffic Exchange (actually, it may be time to knock this experiment on the head as generally, the sites are only loosely related and have poor linkage otherwise).
Whatever; the link referenced an old post of mine about Microsoft software problems here. Notionally, the website looks okay and professional – but I smelled a rat!
This is a screenshot of the whole post (at ). So I did a search on the user’s error message:
‘The DOTNETFX35SETUP.EXE file is linked to missing export NTDLL.DLL:NtShutdownSystem.’ (it turns out later that I should have just done a search on the text in the first paragraph of the post…)
About six entries down in the Google search results, is this page from the respected ‘Yahoo! Answers’ forums website, shown at left.
The screen-shots of each WILL blow up to full-size, but to save you making direct textual comparisons, let me tell you now that the text in both, and one comment, the accepted answer in Yahoo! Answers, is EXACTLY the same!
For your interest, the accepted answer is that the OS’s are incompatible and there’s a fix described.
The real problem is the dates! cleanup-registry.net’s is the 8th September 2009; Yahoo! Answer’s is from 8 months ago!
What we are seeing is the same sort of tactic employed by the Google Treasure Chest scammers of a fake blog (now called a flog!) being used as part of a selling campaign. They’ve content-scraped decent content and passed it off as their own as a means of justifying their flogging area.
Q. Their product?
A. They are trying to sell a registry cleaner type software and a computer maintenance service ($25 per month!) in Las Vegas.
All of this is done under the banner of some fairly useful video how-tos and some less worthy content scraping from other websites….
The killer bits are that all the ‘blog’ entries are dated 24/9/2009 (apart from the odd one) and all the pages and how-tos are dated 24/7/2009!!!
Following the biggest financial meltdown in history over the last 2 years, the optimists are vociferously making themselves known and talking the economies of the world, up.
However, the United Kingdom is not doing as well as Germany (and France), apparently. The reason for this is that Germany’s profits have mainly come from manufacturing exports and their trading is done mainly in the Euro which makes their transactions and agreements easier. Also, in Europe they are not so het up about house ownership and thus didn’t have the collateral to increase the levels of personal debt that has been seen in Britain. This was the news this morning.
Meanwhile, UK house prices are sliding up again….
Q. So is it back to normal?
A. I think attitudes are back to normal.
White van man and the manic BMW & Audi drivers are hammering down the motorways again, so they can obviously afford it.
In the same news programme this morning it was stated that Britain’s recent prosperity is based on… the financial markets.
So Germany makes, while Britain gambles…
And as optimism returns, all the platitudes about financial controls are being quietly swept aside. Instead of controls, HM Gov is going to increase the tax on the gamblers!!! (see “Call for bank tax to curb bonuses” )
These are all clever people apparently, and they’ve all done their economics homework.
But they fail to correlate the fact that the gambling spiv country has done badly in the recession and that the prime reason for the recession was people acting like gambling spivs.
So while they’ve made “agreements” for tax-havens like Bermuda & Liechtenstein to behave better, Britain, in actual fact, has not altered it’s behaviour. It’s whole raison d’etre and source of wealth is gambling and spiv cons.
Britain is like a Las Vegas in the ocean. Only bigger.
My email spambuster Mailwasher Pro is doing overtime since I posted my investigation into Google Treasure Chest and the Robert G Allen Grants swindle. In this second investigation, I showed how the email spam system links the various scam systems together. That is:
By signing up for one sytem, I started receiving email spam from all the various scams around even though they all have the mantra “we hate spammers as much as you do” and they all include privacy policies which expressly state that no email address is shared with anyone else….except third parties!
Bollocks! Of course, my interest was started with Google Treasure Chest, and then I issued a sequence of posts detailing my ever deepening investigations into these scum bastards and their rotten activities.
EMail Spam Reduction – temporarily!
Last week, a malware server was taken offline that had a small impact on the amount of spam I received. (see Methinks the ISP doth Protest Too Much). I reckon the rubbish went down to about 75% of the previous week’s level. In fact, because my Robert G Allen Grants swindle post focussed so much on resourcehurtcentral.com I actually noticed it in my spam by it’s absence!
resourcehurtcentral.com back in the Spam Game
Well I can tell you, it’s back now!
So I decided to see where one of the new spam points…
[email protected] is where the spam notionally comes from. This is despite the fact that I’ve ‘unsubscribed’ from their mailings -twice! So where do they want me to go?
And of course, that’s not the destination – I immediately got redirected to:
This page is worth ignoring, if you are feeling at all suicidal and want to give all your hard-earned money away to twats, that is!!! Otherwise, pay careful attention. NOW!
Firstly, it’s called Google Money Master at the top of the page.
The design is awfully like that of the original Google Treasure Chest signup page at securecartcenter.com
It says “As seen and trusted on Google, CNBC, USA Today, ABC, CNN & Yahoo!” – believe that if you will!
Now compare this with the statement at the bottom of the page which states “The trademarks in this image are owned by their respective owners who do not endorse this product. Google Revolution, LLC is not affiliated with, endorsed by or in any way associated with Google.”
From this, we can safely take it that they are only afraid of Google and don’t care a toss for the rest!
Now, please continue, and while carefully noting the 100% Trusted banner, check out the Terms & Conditions link at the bottom. You’ll have noticed the Matrix-like title “Revolution”. It’s about the same – what goes around comes around.
The T&Cs are now a bit more technical and a bit more frightening since the Google Treasure Chest days. e.g. take a look….
Initiation of a complaint or chargeback against Google Revolution for products or services rendered constitutes a severe breach of this Agreement. A “complaint or chargeback” shall be defined as initiating any form of complaint or chargeback with your credit card issuer or bank. Upon receipt of a complaint or chargeback, or threat thereof, Google Revolution will immediately deactivate all Services provided to the Customer, and immediately begin chargeback reversal (anti-fraud) procedures. In the event we lose the chargeback reversal procedures, we will immediately send to collections the full disputed amount in addition to an administrative fee of five hundred dollars ($500.00 USD). Please note that threats of a complaint or chargeback will be treated the same as an actual complaint or chargeback. In all cases, violation of this clause will result in cancellation of all Services provided to the Customer, regardless of services disputed.
This is their way to counter the recommendation by all of the anti-scammer websites to immediately initiate a chargeback against the company to recover your scammed money!
My personal recommendation is to carry on doing this, as recommended by Chris Malta’s scam tips. Cancel your card, get a chargeback and show your card company the scammy “Terms and Conditions” that this supposed company imposes.
Remember – just because someone writes something down as a Term & Condition for a service, doesn’t actually make it legal. You did realise, of course, that by reading this far you now owe me £1 million??? – I thought not! Well that’s my terms & condition for reading this post. Do you think it’s legal? Obviously not. It’s complete bollox isn’t it? Same goes for the Google bollox too!
You will also note that Google Revolution is owned by:
Honshu Systems, LLC
Attn: Google Revolution General Counsel
2850 Horizon Ridge Pkwy
Henderson, NV 89052
Q.Now when do you think Spring Systems Limited was registered?
A. On 29/5/2009 – about two weeks ago!
It’s pretty clear that this really is a scam, and if not directly a continuation of Google Treasure Chest, Money Tree, Acai Berries, Grants or Green tea scams – it’s using exactly the same methods.
In searching for a reason for the profusion of contacts in County Durham, UK, I’m reminded of a sweet-faced Geordie bint I recently saw promoting Carbon Copy Pro, a similar MLM/pyramid type thing. My personal knowledge tells me that this part of England is like the Wild West at times. I’m from that area!
….Nevada still is, by the look of it! The sheer quantity of new scam business operating with apparent impunity and disregard for the law shows that the Nevada & Utah law enforcers can’t keep a lid on this.
That’s my definition of the Wild West – when laws are not enforced.
The County Durham UK connection is interesting and there are further co-incidences with the smoking gun of lawlessness and criminality that is Nevada, Utah and County Durham…
Notice how I call this a scam. This has being going on since 2007 . It’s only this year has some sort of order been applied to some websites. But now, because of the initial actions, there’s a veritable zoo of copycat websites that have sprung up, still using the original secretive methods and styles. To say that Google Treasure Chest is now behaving properly is missing the point. It’s activities like this that have spawned this chimera of shifting targets and thus, it’s still the original system designer’s fault and they should be penalised accordingly.
I’m calling this list a “Google Treasure Chest” list purely because that’s where I started. As time has progressed there’s been so much blurring of the edges that it can probably be applied to anything that’s appeared in these related postings and all the other websites that have picked up on this scam.
The information is arranged chronologically is it was received at this website and shows the wide variety of contacts that people have had to endure – notice how some phone numbers have been quoted at different addresses! This demonstrates either complete incompetence or laissez-faire by the various ‘web-masters or a series of deliberate attempts to obfuscate and mislead. Either way, the effect is the same.
See this video howtoabout get use your credit card company to beat the scammers.
Governmental and Other Consumer Help Contacts
This is a short list of consumer help and official governmental scam reporting organistions.
Sites called GTC refer to Google Treasure Chest. The rest you’ll have to guess at or look at the original comment on this website where all this info has been posted originally. I haven’t gone to other websites to get extra stuff – life’s too short.
Saying this, the GTC phone numbers at the bottom tend to work according to people that have left a message or comment. So if you need to cancel your ‘golden opportunity for wealth’, then try these.
I’ll try and keep this list updated with new numbers as I come across them. They aren’t guaranteed to work – but it’s a starting point…
Current Best Practice (to get out of this scam) – 4 June 2009 (SP)
Cancel your credit card / get your credit card company to do a charge back (See this video howto)
Phone 866 957 0020
In both cases, the people who’ve got their money back have been persistent and straight to the point. Don’t hang up until they cough up!
This is a follow-up to help the poor folks suckered in by Google Treasure Chest etc as detailed here and here. Hopefully, it shows how things move in this murky world and how really, it’s all connected!
From reading the various links I provided at google-treasure-chest-its-a-scam-and-a-half , I found that some ‘commenters’ were recommending a site called ‘Google Cash’ as being somewhat more trustworthy. It was supposed to have a better service and openness.
Of course, since in most of the forums absolutely no-one uses their real name, how can you tell that a supposedly ‘good’ comment about a thing, is actually good, and not just one of the spammers making a plug?
Answer: You can’t, not without some digging and inferential thought.
Anyway, some of the guys behind all this have been reading all the negative stuff about themselves and actually taken some if it on board!
Take this site, http://web.archive.org/web/20090803130316/http://www.google-kit.com:80/?, which un-nervingly pops up a depressingly familiar cheery face, with a sad introductory life story, a new car and a happy, smiley family. In this case, he’s called ‘Jason Williams’ and the site is titled ‘Jason’s Road to Riches‘ …
The only real difference between the two sites (I haven’t back-linked for SEO reasons), is that the first has listened to some of the adverse comment in the forums… Here’s how.
People have said frequently that even though the sites are made with WordPress and appear to have ‘customer comments’, the reality is that these were always blocked. Not so with the first site, Jason’s. Comments are exposed and can be added to. Of course, this is only a small touch, but it’s re-assuring to a visitor. ( Like this site, a WordPress admin can delete, edit and invent any amount of comments to put the thing in a good light – I might do it – how can you tell? A= you can’t. It’s a trust thing… ).
Jason’s site actually has the disclaimer right at the bottom of the main page! Gasp! previously you’d only see this on the securecart page, before you click ‘pay now’ and if you checked right at the bottom.
For your interest, this is the current spiel with the new address (that part, the address changes, hasn’t changed, if you see what I mean!). Read it very, very carefully if you intend to go for this rubbish.
GOOGLE™ is a trademark of Google Inc. GOOGLE™ does not endorse or sponsor this site and is no way affiliated with this site. * By submitting this form I authorize Google ATM (DRI*GoogleATM) to immediately charge my credit card $1.95 USD for the setup of the Google ATM Home Business Kit. I hereby request that Google ATM (DRI*GoogleATM) activate my account and authorize them to advance funds as indicated. Monthly Service fees will commence seven days from the date of this purchase, and will be billed monthly thereafter. After the seven day trial you will be billed Sixty nine dollars and ninety cents USD monthly for the continued access to the Google Money Making System. No refunds will be given for failure to use the requested and provided services. We reserve the right to transfer your billing to a third party Merchant of Record. This authority will remain in effect until revoked by me. You may cancel at anytime by writing to 4240 West Flamingo Rd. Suite #201, Las Vegas, NV 89103 or calling 1-800-497-4988 (International customers please call 1-866-321-2728). I agree that Google ATM (DRI*GoogleATM) shall be fully protected in honoring any electronic transfer or collection. Google ATM shall not be responsible for refunding any Account Set-Up fees. By submitting this information I am agreeing to the terms stated herein. Google ATM (DRI*GoogleATM) will not send notification, postal or electronic, when a billing occurs.
But it shows that they are listening; making all the changes necessary to stay ahead.
Bad Connections Revealed
Both sites now have links to something called http://chrisc.com/about/, a business that’s claimed to be reputable by many people in the forums. I’ve got a funny feeling about this one because of the long standing of the company and the various people who’ve published proper books on the subject. It’s very easy to lump all these similar sounding names into one heap of turd.
My supposition is that the googlecash.com link is being inserted to add an air of credibility to the various scammy sites. Unfortunately, it doesn’t help googlecash.com’s cause when their site looks like a soap powder advert and the scammers’ look smooth and professional…. What is one to think!
And what about the links to the articles for sale. What are they like?
A. Jason is flogging three links:
The ‘Google Home Business Kit‘ which points after some redirections to here again
The ‘Google Marketing Kit’ which unfortunately I can’t see as I’m in the UK
A. David is also flogging three links:
The ‘Google Home Business Kit‘ again, which has the same visual webpage but located here
The ‘Google Marketing Kit’ which unfortunately I can’t see because my OpenDNS has blocked the ‘LynxTrack’ counter and I can’t be bothered to unblock it!
Both securecartcenter.com and eznetincome.com I mentioned disparagingly in an earlier posting! Nuff said.
This is the third link for both sites. You’ll notice that ‘Grants’ figure several times in the list of images and folders served in my description here: drill-down-through-bsadnpanthersslcom. It’s all part of the same sorry team. However, I must have caught them off-guard as the links didn’t actually work! Ha Ha.
Funnily enough, on Jason’s site, no commenter seemed to notice that!
The scammers are using familiar tactics and methods but are tweaking continuously to stay ahead of the game.
They do anything to look good.
They do anything to disguise the true cost of the ‘service’. e.g. immediate charge is stated as $1.95. Subsequent is written as Sixty nine dollars and ninety cents USD monthly. It’s psychological – you don’t see it!
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