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More on Google Profits and Pacific Webworks

What a tangled web we weave...

Oh What a tangled web we weave…

Oh What a tangled web we weave…

Back on May 1st I checked out this particular morph of the Google Money Bollox Kit Chest Scheme Plan…  See here.  I just had to show it because of the naff spelling and wordage, plus the inconsistencies in the text and graphics, and company name changes.

Normal

Of course, I’ve now realised that this is all totally normal and is done on purpose to keep Propellor heads busy..  At the time, the penultimate link in the chain of signing up, was:

Propellor Head

So I thought I’d check if it still worked, it being a “secure” connection with session ID, and myself having been through several incarnations of Firefox as well as frequent cache and cookie clearances….

Copyright © 2009 Google Profits™

Well I was still laughing at the dinky trademark sign when I fired up (in)s3curehost dot com.  They obviously consider it something worth protecting!

Work from home with google

Work from home with google

You’ll not be surprised to know that s3curehost.com still exists (so much for security and session IDs?).  I’m actually surprised, in a small way, that they still keep pumping this stuff out. A Whois shows that  s3curehost.com is “IntelliPay, Inc.” a.k.a. “Pacific WebWorks, Inc.” who we’ve already looked at in Salt Lake City on the original Google Treasure Chest – It’s a Scam and a Half posting.

The “Google Profits” web-page has changed slightly, but the incompetent spelling and characteristic inconsistency is reassuringly still there!

It’s to good…  Earn $978 a day… Google Profits – eAuction, which one is it?

I left my “qualifying” to another day, so I haven’t found out if I’m ‘eligable’ yet.

Pacific Web Works

Pacific WebWorks, Inc.

Pacific WebWorks, Inc.

There are two things of note about this business, apart from the “Microsoft Certified Partner” logo. [added 26/10/2009: Matt at scamtimes.com has checked out the claim to be valid here in this comment below. However, it seems very easy to get this ‘logo’ certification.]

  1. The phone number at the contact page here: http://web.archive.org/web/20100507231016/http://www.pacificwebworks.com:80/contact_pweb.htm, which is:
    230 West 400 South 1st Floor
    Salt Lake City, UT 84101

    phone: 801-578-9020
    fax: 801-578-9019
  2. It’s business is an integrated solution for other internet based businesses – my description(SP).

At first glance it’s a normal business for this line of work.  Here’s what they say about themselves and their custom  software suite:

  • They have “assembled a staff of professional trainers, coaches and support specialists”
  • They have “built a state-of-the-art data center” which takes “care of everything, including hosting, manpower, and technical details”
  • They provide “Tools for creating, managing and maintaining a web site”.
  • They provide “Electronic business tools, including storefront hosting, shopping cart and Internet payment systems.”.
  • They provide “Internet Marketing tools, including automated customer database, survey, and e-mail marketing tools.”.
The Plot Thickens

The Plot Thickens

So far so good.  And the database – that must be where all the contacts are kept, securely, private?

Now check that telephone number again.  It was the 9020 that did it! Like primeval intelligence, it’s come back from the depths of my mind.

It’s listed as the main contact point for Google Treasure Chest, etc, many times.  See here and here for two of my posts.  Now check this google search for the phone number 801-578-9020.

There are 1780 results, nearly all are complaints about being ripped-off or scammed.

Another word for rip-off or scam is the legal term, theft.

Conclusion

Chain link

Like links in a chain

Pacific Webworks are still in business – in fact, business is booming and they are reported to be in the top 40 Utah companies!  (http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/pacific-webworks-receives-recognition,890942.shtml).  I’m not sure who this lot are doing the reporting, but I can guess the connections…(added 3/3/10: Link to Earth Times removed.  This ‘business’ contains several puffs for PWW.  Like most dodgy websites, it’s domain WHOIS is hidden, by Domains by Proxy, again! – SP)

What a tangled web we weave...

What a tangled web we weave…

This industrial resource, http://resources.bnet.com/topic/pacific+webworks+inc..html, shows that the company had sales >$9m last year for its 34 employees. This is very interesting!  The same source shows, on this page, that profits are doubling at the company this year.

This is good news for all the people ripped off by Eborn et al.

Because the company, having exactly the same phone number as the main protagonists in the Google Treasure Chest scams, now cannot fail to be connected by the FTC in their investigations and imminent court cases.

And from what I recall from the closure of the call centre, is that 200 employees lost their jobs.  This is the same call centre that had 801-578-9020 as the contact number!  It was people working at the call centre who said that 200 people worked there(see http://www.topix.net/forum/source/fox13now/T28A5BU37IS57DC8C/p3).

 

Weakest Link

So there isn’t just a partial business relationship between Pacific Webworks and one or more plaintiffs mentioned in the FTC charges, they are intimately connected.

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Google Revolution, Different Name, Same Scam!

Introduction

Beat the Scammer and the SwindlerMy email spambuster Mailwasher Pro is doing overtime since I posted my investigation into Google Treasure Chest and the Robert G Allen Grants swindle. In this second investigation, I showed how the email spam system links the various scam systems together. That is:

By signing up for one sytem, I started receiving email spam from all the various scams around even though they all have the mantra “we hate spammers as much as you do” and they all include privacy policies which expressly state that no email address is shared with anyone else….except third parties!

Bollocks! Of course, my interest was started with Google Treasure Chest, and then I issued a sequence of posts detailing my ever deepening investigations into these scum bastards and their rotten activities.

EMail Spam Reduction – temporarily!

Last week, a malware server was taken offline that had a small impact on the amount of spam I received. (see Methinks the ISP doth Protest Too Much). I reckon the rubbish went down to about 75% of the previous week’s level. In fact, because my Robert G Allen Grants swindle post focussed so much on resourcehurtcentral.com I actually noticed it in my spam by it’s absence!

resourcehurtcentral.com back in the Spam Game

Well I can tell you, it’s back now!

So I decided to see where one of the new spam points…

[email protected] is where the spam notionally comes from. This is despite the fact that I’ve ‘unsubscribed’ from their mailings -twice! So where do they want me to go?

http://ressourcehurtcentral.com…|Ug==.html

And of course, that’s not the destination – I immediately got redirected to:

https://www.6ftoverhead.com/ODU5N3w3MHwzMjM2MTd8djI=/r7w5n4b9/g

GoogleMoneyMaster

Google Money Master / Google Revolution

This page is worth ignoring, if you are feeling at all suicidal and want to give all your hard-earned money away to twats, that is!!! Otherwise, pay careful attention. NOW!

  • Firstly, it’s called Google Money Master at the top of the page.
  • The design is awfully like that of the original Google Treasure Chest signup page at securecartcenter.com
  • It says “As seen and trusted on Google, CNBC, USA Today, ABC, CNN & Yahoo!” – believe that if you will!
  • Now compare this with the statement at the bottom of the page which states “The trademarks in this image are owned by their respective owners who do not endorse this product. Google Revolution, LLC is not affiliated with, endorsed by or in any way associated with Google.”
  • From this, we can safely take it that they are only afraid of Google and don’t care a toss for the rest!

Now, please continue, and while carefully noting the 100% Trusted banner, check out the Terms & Conditions link at the bottom. You’ll have noticed the Matrix-like title “Revolution”. It’s about the same – what goes around comes around.

The T&Cs are now a bit more technical and a bit more frightening since the Google Treasure Chest days. e.g. take a look….

O. Chargebacks.

Initiation of a complaint or chargeback against Google Revolution for products or services rendered constitutes a severe breach of this Agreement. A “complaint or chargeback” shall be defined as initiating any form of complaint or chargeback with your credit card issuer or bank. Upon receipt of a complaint or chargeback, or threat thereof, Google Revolution will immediately deactivate all Services provided to the Customer, and immediately begin chargeback reversal (anti-fraud) procedures. In the event we lose the chargeback reversal procedures, we will immediately send to collections the full disputed amount in addition to an administrative fee of five hundred dollars ($500.00 USD). Please note that threats of a complaint or chargeback will be treated the same as an actual complaint or chargeback. In all cases, violation of this clause will result in cancellation of all Services provided to the Customer, regardless of services disputed.

This is their way to counter the recommendation by all of the anti-scammer websites to immediately initiate a chargeback against the company to recover your scammed money!

My personal recommendation is to carry on doing this, as recommended by Chris Malta’s scam tips. Cancel your card, get a chargeback and show your card company the scammy “Terms and Conditions” that this supposed company imposes.

Remember – just because someone writes something down as a Term & Condition for a service, doesn’t actually make it legal. You did realise, of course, that by reading this far you now owe me £1 million??? – I thought not! Well that’s my terms & condition for reading this post. Do you think it’s legal? Obviously not. It’s complete bollox isn’t it? Same goes for the Google bollox too!

Ownership

You will also note that Google Revolution is owned by:

Honshu Systems, LLC
Attn: Google Revolution General Counsel
2850 Horizon Ridge Pkwy
Suite 625
Henderson, NV 89052

Plot Thickens Again!

This would be it, you’d think. But no, the plot thickens again, so check out the actual Google Revolution website…. at http://web.archive.org/web/20140101002331/http://googlerevolution.com/, specifically their privacy policy (formerly at ). Like Roger Whitaker, we are back in County Durham in the UK!

You’ll see that all postal letters must go to:

15 Park Terrace Leadgate, Consett, County Durham, DH8 7QD United Kingdom.

But if you want to telephone, you have to call the USA here:

1-877-300-5671

Now, Using Google, I Checked the County Durham Address and Did a Search for Bad Scam Comments

The UK ‘Durham’ connection is interesting. There is at least one business registered at this address – called Spring Systems Limited. It’s details are here, https://www.ukdata.com/numbers/06919609.html

I checked Google for bad stuff on Google Money Master and Google Revolution. All the bad comments started about two weeks ago e.g.

There are many more.

Q.Now when do you think Spring Systems Limited was registered?

A. On 29/5/2009 – about two weeks ago!

Conclusion

It’s pretty clear that this really is a scam, and if not directly a continuation of Google Treasure Chest, Money Tree, Acai Berries, Grants or Green tea scams – it’s using exactly the same methods.

In searching for a reason for the profusion of contacts in County Durham, UK, I’m reminded of a sweet-faced Geordie bint I recently saw promoting Carbon Copy Pro, a similar MLM/pyramid type thing. My personal knowledge tells me that this part of England is like the Wild West at times. I’m from that area!

….Nevada still is, by the look of it! The sheer quantity of new scam business operating with apparent impunity and disregard for the law shows that the Nevada & Utah law enforcers can’t keep a lid on this.

That’s my definition of the Wild West – when laws are not enforced.

The County Durham UK connection is interesting and there are further co-incidences with the smoking gun of lawlessness and criminality that is Nevada, Utah and County Durham…

Spooky connections, eh?

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Google Treasure Chest – and a Huge List of Scams

Introduction

I’ve done a fair bit of checking around the Google Treasure Chest/Money Kit scamming systems to try and alieviate some of the pain that a lot of people have been afflicted with.

Now follows possibly the most extensive scam list and redirects that I’ve found.  I class this post from workathometruth.com as a:

Very Important Link!

http://www.workathometruth.com/blog/2009/04/17/make-money-posting-links-on-google-scam/ – Make Money Posting Links On Google Scam.

I haven’t posted the list.  It’s all you need in the link, all nearly in alphabetic order.  Pages and pages of it!

Related Links on This Site


Comments are now closed on this posting as Google Treasure Chest is dead.
However, the problem has not gone away – the menace continues.

For further information, all chat on this and subsequent scams is now here:
Google Revolution, Different Name, Same Scam!
and here:
More on Google Profits and Pacific Webworks/

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Google Treasure Chest, or Kit, and Mysterious ‘Help’ from a Stranger

Pre-Script

Comments are now closed on this posting as Google Treasure Chest is dead.
However, the problem has not gone away – the menace continues.

For further information, all chat on this and subsequent scams is now here:
Google Revolution, Different Name, Same Scam!
and here:
More on Google Profits and Pacific Webworks/

Google Treasure Chest

The saga that is Google Treasure Chest in all it’s various incarnations took an unusual turn the other day and it’s only now I’ve got round to writing about it.  For completeness, this is part of the story documented in these three links (and the shrapnel emanating!)

Google Adsense

The unusual problem is to do with this comment on the Google Treasure Chest – it’s a scam and a half! posting.

http://strangelyperfect.tv/3099/google-treasure-chest-its-a-scam-and-a-half/#comment-1176

It’s from a guy named ‘jeff’.  The IP address is put down as somewhere in Alaska and the email address is a gmail.com one.  The problem is the wordage and content of the comment, because notionally it looks okay.  It says;

Strangely Perfect has a link to this scam:
googleads.g.doubleclick.net/aclk?sa=l&ai=BztmIm33nSc_wF5uorAPAz9S1ApethJcBx4WBrwzAjbcB4L40EAEYAiCPg6QOKAI4AFC7seKP
_v____8BYMnmp4a0o6AXoAGdjMruA7IBE3N0cmFuZ2VseXBlcmZlY3QudHa6AQk0Njh4NjBfYXP
IAQHaAUxodHRwOi8vc3RyYW5nZWx5cGVyZmVjdC50di8zMDk5L2dvb2dsZS10cmVhc3VyZS1j
aGVzdC1pdHMtYS1zY2FtLWFuZC1hLWhhbGYv4AECqQK39pSQk9irPqgDAcgDB-gDYegDyAL1A
wAAAAT1AwBAAAA&num=2&sig=AGiWqty_8Dkk4B5fCXsxHe4HgUcV1MOm5w
&client=ca-pub-0574746273596969&adurl=http://www.trackednet.com/statistics/ngm/&nm=33

@AmazonI’ve stripped off the http’ and addded carriage returns to the query string otherwise it shoots right across the page, and even worse, it would allow the link to run.

What’s interesting is that somehow ‘jeff’ has managed (or bothered?) to add a adsense link with my google adsense reference number.  Now this isn’t hard to find.  Check the source code for any of my pages and they’ll all contain the code as a google ad is on every page as they are in the sidebar.

In other words – it’s not rocket science.

But why would someone want to do that?  The actual text is “Strangely Perfect has a link to this scam”, followed by a link.

But the comment is on the actual post where the actual Google Treasure Chest scam is dug into.

  • Q.  So where does the actual link point to?
  • A.  Not where you think – is the answer!

The end URL, http://www.trackednet.com/statistics/ngm/&nm=33 is a 404 dead end.  The front query string is also dead.  Only when the link is clicked (and I’m credited, bizarrely), does the link take you anywhere and that place is a redirect from trackednet.com via a ‘Go’ page to:

http://www.entrepreneur.com/topic/home-based-business

This is a California based company and is in a very nice glazed building off the San Diego Freeway.

Confused

So I’m a trifle confused.  What’s this comment doing on the post?  It’s a kind of self-referential hell.  Is it a mistake by ‘jeff’ who posted the comment on the wrong website?  Is it part of a link duffing-up process?  Is it people posting extra links back to their site on popular posts to ensure the link stands out and isn’t in with the normal bunch of links?

When ‘jeff’ said “Strangely Perfect has a link to this scam”, it’s as if he’s coppied a link from my sidebar adverts and pasted it into a comment……   I hope it’s a genuine mistake and not some new ‘thing’ that I’m at present unaware of!

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Google Kit, or Treasure Chest, the Plot Thickens?

Pre-Script

Comments are now closed on this posting as Google Treasure Chest is dead.
However, the problem has not gone away – the menace continues.

For further information, all chat on this and subsequent scams is now here:
Google Revolution, Different Name, Same Scam!
and here:
More on Google Profits and Pacific Webworks/

Introduction

@AmazonThis is a follow-up to help the poor folks suckered in by Google Treasure Chest etc as detailed here and here.  Hopefully, it shows how things move in this murky world and how really, it’s all connected!

From reading the various links I provided at google-treasure-chest-its-a-scam-and-a-half , I found that some ‘commenters’ were recommending a site called ‘Google Cash’ as being somewhat more trustworthy.  It was supposed to have a better service and openness.

Of course, since in most of the forums absolutely no-one uses their real name, how can you tell that a supposedly ‘good’ comment about a thing, is actually good, and not just one of the spammers making a plug?

Answer:  You can’t, not without some digging and inferential thought.

Changes

Anyway, some of the guys behind all this have been reading all the negative stuff about themselves and actually taken some if it on board!

Jason

Jason Smith

Jason Smith

Take this site, http://web.archive.org/web/20090803130316/http://www.google-kit.com:80/?, which un-nervingly pops up a depressingly familiar cheery face, with a sad introductory life story, a new car and a happy, smiley family.  In this case, he’s called ‘Jason Williams’ and the site is titled ‘Jason’s Road to Riches‘ …

David

[image gone now, Sep 2009]I decided to chop out some text, as before, whack it into Google and see what pops out…..  Wahay!  Currently there’s only one site with the search string as here:   “I ended up getting in touch with an old friend of mine from college named Sean who had been running his own work from home business for a few years“.  It’s called , titled ‘David’s Cash Blog‘  [n.b. both sites now defunct, Sep 2009]

Differences and Inferences

The only real difference between the two sites (I haven’t back-linked for SEO reasons), is that the first has listened to some of the adverse comment in the forums…  Here’s how.

  • People have said frequently that even though the sites are made with WordPress and appear to have ‘customer comments’, the reality is that these were always blocked.  Not so with the first site, Jason’s.  Comments are exposed and can be added to.  Of course, this is only a small touch, but it’s re-assuring to a visitor. ( Like this site, a WordPress admin can delete, edit and  invent any amount of comments to put the thing in a good light – I might do it – how can you tell?  A= you can’t.  It’s a trust thing… ).
  • Jason’s site actually has the disclaimer right at the bottom of the main page!  Gasp!  previously you’d only see this on the securecart page, before you click ‘pay now’ and if you checked right at the bottom.

For your interest, this is the current spiel with the new address (that part, the address changes, hasn’t changed, if you see what I mean!).  Read it very, very carefully if you intend to go for this rubbish.

GOOGLE™ is a trademark of Google Inc. GOOGLE™ does not endorse or sponsor this site and is no way affiliated with this site. * By submitting this form I authorize Google ATM (DRI*GoogleATM) to immediately charge my credit card $1.95 USD for the setup of the Google ATM Home Business Kit. I hereby request that Google ATM (DRI*GoogleATM) activate my account and authorize them to advance funds as indicated. Monthly Service fees will commence seven days from the date of this purchase, and will be billed monthly thereafter. After the seven day trial you will be billed Sixty nine dollars and ninety cents USD monthly for the continued access to the Google Money Making System. No refunds will be given for failure to use the requested and provided services. We reserve the right to transfer your billing to a third party Merchant of Record. This authority will remain in effect until revoked by me. You may cancel at anytime by writing to 4240 West Flamingo Rd. Suite #201, Las Vegas, NV 89103 or calling 1-800-497-4988 (International customers please call 1-866-321-2728). I agree that Google ATM (DRI*GoogleATM) shall be fully protected in honoring any electronic transfer or collection. Google ATM shall not be responsible for refunding any Account Set-Up fees. By submitting this information I am agreeing to the terms stated herein. Google ATM (DRI*GoogleATM) will not send notification, postal or electronic, when a billing occurs.

But it shows that they are listening;  making all the changes necessary to stay ahead.

Bad Connections Revealed

Both sites now have links to something called http://chrisc.com/about/, a business that’s claimed to be reputable by many people in the forums.  I’ve got a funny feeling about this one because of the long standing of the company and the various people who’ve published proper books on the subject.  It’s very easy to lump all these similar sounding names into one heap of turd.

My supposition is that the googlecash.com link is being inserted to add an air of credibility to the various scammy sites.  Unfortunately, it doesn’t help googlecash.com’s cause when their site looks like a soap powder advert and the scammers’  look smooth and professional….  What is one to think!

Link Checking

And what about the links to the articles for sale.  What are they like?

A.  Jason is flogging three links:

  • The ‘Google Home Business Kit‘ which points after some redirections to here again
  • The ‘Google Marketing Kit’ which unfortunately I can’t see as I’m in the UK

A.  David is also flogging three links:

  • The ‘Google Home Business Kit‘  again, which has the same visual webpage but located here
  • The ‘Google Marketing Kit’ which unfortunately I can’t see because my OpenDNS has blocked the ‘LynxTrack’ counter and I can’t be bothered to unblock it!

Both securecartcenter.com and eznetincome.com I mentioned disparagingly in an earlier posting!  Nuff said.

Grant Kit

This is the third link for both sites.  You’ll notice that ‘Grants’ figure several times in the list of images and folders served in my description here: drill-down-through-bsadnpanthersslcom.  It’s all part of the same sorry team.  However, I must have caught them off-guard as the links didn’t actually work!  Ha Ha.

Funnily enough, on Jason’s site, no commenter seemed to notice that!

Conclusion

The scammers are using familiar tactics and methods but are tweaking continuously to stay ahead of the game.

  • They do anything to look good.
  • They do anything to disguise the true cost of the ‘service’. e.g. immediate charge is stated as $1.95.  Subsequent is written as Sixty nine dollars and ninety cents USD monthly.  It’s psychological – you don’t see it!

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