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What? No Google! Use Robert Allen Instead!

Introduction

Spring, last year, was when I first stumbled upon Pacific WebWorks (PWW) and their nefarious schemes.  That was when I happened upon Google Treasure Chest, one of their many scams.

This then ballooned into a miasma of a web of crime which frankly astonished me.

Then, across the globe, many people fought against the scammers and there have been some small victories when the (mainly USA) authorities have used the law against them.

But as many scribes (e.g. Paul Schlegel) pointed out (e.g. here), it would, and it has all returned.

Okay Subject Please!

June 20th 2008 - Looking Forward to VacationI’ve been trawling through the old posts on this website to see how the websites have changed.  True, Google Treasure Chest has sunk to the bottom of the ocean, but many of the old websites are still around.  They, the suck-in sites for the real ‘products’, divide, broadly, into two camps:

  • Fake blog sites
  • Fake News sites

Most of the fake blogs are gone, but most of the fake news sites are still around!  What has happened is with some very quick coding, all the pointers go to new, non-google type sites.  You can tell that the coding was quick because Google is still there in the hyperlink descriptions!!!

Example

Initial information on a fake News Site from @Not Kevin is here.  He said;

Clicked on the link to Easy Google Profit from this fake news story: http://www.businessgazette.net/finance/article-3910/ and about 6 different sites are loaded through some javascript thing including yoursearchprofits.com seofromhome.com bsadn.pantherssl.com and a few others.

Business Gazette

This is the fake news website here: http://www.businessgazette.net/finance/article-3910/  A screen-dump is shown on the right.
Hover your mouse over the ads or the links in the “Business Gazette” page.  They are all the same and they all point to http://www.businessgazette.net/google/ – Notice the word “GOOGLE” !!! Compared to previously, the links are now slimmed down to one!

Now click the link and it redirects to a really annoying, automatically starting  audio from someone called Ivan Fienney at this website: http://www.ivanblogsecrets.com/campaigns/rgah/IF_1_new.php?linkid=212144&subid=50519&subid2=65513   This link shows all the affiliate IDs etc.

However, if you strip them out, the page will still load from this address, http://www.ivanblogsecrets.com/campaigns/rgah/IF_1_new.php, or  if you type in or click http://www.ivanblogsecrets.com

Ivan the Terrible

If you listen to the smarmy voice, he’ll claim that it’s a real established business, is NOT MLM, is not a Pyramid scheme etc etc.  That’s him on the left.

Q. Where do his links go?

A. They go to something called a “Instant Wealth Program”.  You’ll find that the linking URL is http://212144.msicourse.com/

Q. So who could it be?

A. It’s that slimeball Robert Allen, famed for his spam, famed for his bankrupty, famed for real-estate dodgy deals.

Now Ivan Fienney, if you can stand the audio, claims that it’s not real estate or a scam, and yet, as I made plain last year, in Robert Allen’s own claims he DOES use real estate in one of his “plans”!

If you listen to Ivan until the 8:00 mark, you’ll find that the whole “plan” actually is “posting links on Google”.  Well what a surprise, I’m sure!

And there we have it.  The “Instant Wealth Scheme” is the old, old “make money with Google” scheme again.  Good ol’ Bobby Allen.  Aaah.

Robert Allen – Multiple Streams of Income

Slime Nosed DevilThe quaintly entitled website, http://212144.msicourse.com/, is indeed Robert Allen.  He’s hidden it’s WHOIS details using Moniker Privacy Services.  However, check out the screen-dump below and right (as well as Ivan’s above).

Multiple Streams of Income

He claims various things, like “as seen on TV” (the Aussie one I saw was investigative journalism where he refused to speak and the reporters were bundled out of the room!) or NY Times.  Maybe they are all investigative reports into his scam activities? Maybe they’re all a figment of ol’ Bobby’s fevered imagination?  Who knows?

But what I do know is that one of his merit badges is from “The Reader’s Digest” – who’ve just gone bust!!!  See http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8520243.stm Nice one, Bobby.

Perú > LimaAlso notice that his website uses the famed “countdown timer”, a tactic abrasively commented upon in recent USA court cases against scammers.  If, like me, you’ve been on the page too long, it’ll helpfully prompt you when “time runs out” – and then gives you a whole extra ten minutes to make up your mind.  Gosh.  It’ll even do it again – with another 10 minutes!

I think I’ll pass on all that, if you don’t mind.

Prosper Inc

Robert Allen proudly states that he uses Prosper Inc for his “services”.  They, of course, are from Utah, see their contacts page here: http://www.prosperlearning.com/contact.html

Erroneous statement deleted.  Too many prospers but all info gratefully accepted.. (SP)

Now see the following few examples of complaints and worries:

Further Information

Last year’s post on Robert Allen is here.   Robert G Allen, Grants, and a Credit Card Slimeball.    From all of this, you can probably tell that he’s not on my Xmas Card list!  To confirm this, see various links which expose ol’ Bobby for what he was, and still is!

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Curious Suicide

The Coroner and The Law

I’m often struck when reading the papers or news, to see the coroner’s verdict on someone’s death as:

Ending his own life “while the balance of his mind was disturbed”

Dennis and Flora Milner said they wanted to decide when to die

Dennis and Flora Milner said they wanted to decide when to die

Well they have to say something, it’s their job, but the phrase is very peculiar.  It is also very common, over 110k webpages!

Take this couple, the Milners, who were found dead in their home on the 1st November, 2009.  They look quite jolly, don’t they.  Would you say that the balance of their mind is disturbed?

Current UK law says that it’s OK to end your own life, but illegal to help anyone do it.  I’ve emphasised the word “current”, because not that long ago, when the spoken language of the people of Britain would be comprehensible to us here today, it was actually a capital offence to commit suicide!  In other words, if you failed to kill yourself, the State would that ensure you got your wish, by hanging you.  This all came from the Catholic and then later Protestant religions’ view of life and the hereafter.

This shows that the view of suicide is highly flexible!

New Economy

Angst

A common view, is as I stated at the top; that someone has a mental problem.  This is a tautology, of course. (Statement: ‘All people who attempt suicide are mentally ill.’ Question: ‘How do you know they are mentally ill?’ Answer: ‘Because only mentally ill persons would try to commit suicide.’) But more to the point, what is the mind?

Mind

People have struggled since the dawn of self-comprehension about “the mind”.  Descartes said “I think therefore I am” which is as good as anything.

Nichiren, the Buddhist monk has said many things, usually by quoting other previous Buddhist scholars and the like, and with an alarming number of references to the concept of “mind“, “self” and “existence“.  For instance, quoting Dengyo he states,

“The two phases of life and death are the wonderful workings of one mind. The two ways of existence and non-existence are the true functions of an inherently enlightened mind.” – Nichiren, The Heritage of the Ultimate Law of Life

Which is all fine and dandy if you’re not depressed, isn’t it?  If you are feeling down, it’s as dust to the wind, isn’t it?

But the truth of what Nichiren is saying is that it encapsulates one’s concept of “self”, regardless of whether you are up or down with your life.

And surely, by knowing oneself, even if you are suicidal, then your mind is never disturbed because at that point you have a very clear idea of “self”?

Suicide Types

Disappearance/Appearance

Value

There are various forms of suicide, neatly classified on this Wikipedia entry.  What is clear to me, is that there are, in essence, only two types of suicide, and they both to varying degrees are to do with a lack of value to life, not a disrespect of it.

  • Respect is a concept based in honour and subservience.
  • Value is a concept that is transferable across many human activities and we all have a good idea of it’s meaning that is far removed from any concept of society, duty, kinship and a host of other things based around law and natural justice.

The first is when one perceives no value in one’s own life.

Here, I’m separating life and existence into two different things, much as all the world’s major religions do.  (Most religions, in one way or another, have at their core the premise that when you die, in the physical sense, that you “go” somewhere else afterwards).  In such a case, a person may be fed up with their lot and end it all for one of the reasons that Wikipedia lists.  For example, men with families like myself, when getting their pension statement will jokingly say amongst themselves that “I’m worth more dead than alive!”.  The truth is that this is a truly valid reason that many suicides will use and is a far closer statement of the reality of many in the Western World’s lives than they care to admit.

The second is when a person sees no value in other’s lives.

Such examples could be:

  • A soldier in Afghanistan
  • A soldier in WW1 or WW2
  • A suicide bomber in Iraq or Afghanistan
  • A kamikaze pilot in WW2

 

Grieving Woman

We must remember that so long as war exists on earth there will be some danger that even the nation which most ardently desires peace may be drawn into war . . .
I hate war . . .
Let those who wish our friendship look us in the eye and take our hand.
© Gettty Images https://tinyurl.com/looceef

In each of these cases, the potential for that person’s own death is there precisely because they set aside for an undefined period, any value of the person’s life they are going to kill, even though there’s a good chance they too will die.

By doing this they wrap up my first reason within the second.  It’s impossible not to!

Of course, they justify their reasons under the flags of patriotism or peace and the promise or expectation of a “better life” either elsewhere for themselves or their families or country.

Country-Person, Person-Country?

Nationalism and native land

Nationalism and native land

But what is the point of committing suicide for a country or a belief system like a religion?  These are temporary constructs of our human minds.  As Nichiren said;

There are not two lands, pure or impure in themselves. The difference lies solely in the good or evil of our minds. – On Attaining Buddhahood in This Lifetime – The Writings of Nichiren Daishonin, Volume 1, page 4

and here;

It is like the case of a person who in a dream sees himself performing various good and evil actions. After he wakes up and considers the matter, he realizes that it was all a dream produced by his own mind. This mind of his corresponds to the single principle of the essential nature of phenomena, the true aspect of reality, while the good and evil that appeared in the dream correspond to enlightenment and delusion. – The Entity of the Mystic Law – WND1, page 418

So what we have is our own mind.

  • Who is to say whether it’s mad or bad?
  • Who is to say that life itself is a true reality, because every single thing we see with our eyes and perceive with our other senses, is actually processed information by, and a product of, our own mind!

This last is pure physics and logic.  We live, and see things just like TV.  A TV picture is just dots on a screen.  Our mind converts them into news, trees, people, porn.  But there’s nothing there, only dots.

Similarly with Great Art.  It’s just paint splodges.  It’s our mind that makes the Mona Lisa enigmatic – not even Leonardo’s – it’s our own mind that does it!!!. Just like the expression, “Beauty is in the eye of the beholder”.

Life and Love

Soldier Love

Love

So who can put any suicide under any form of disdain?  Who can dare compare the suicide of a soldier (usually dressed up as medals and bravery, and they are brave, make no mistake) dying for his or her concept of patriotism with the suicide of a spurned lover, dying for their own concept of life and duty?

It takes just as much bravery for a young girl to walk into a market place and blow herself up as it does for a soldier to run across open ground through a field of enfilading machine gun fire.

And it takes the same bravery for a spurned or deceived lover to end their life when they’ve been through all the options in their own mind, using all the logic at their disposal and deduced that a new, different life for themselves in the next existence is a better option than the current life, especially if, as I said earlier, they consider the value of their life to be greater when they are dead!

To go through all these acts of certain death takes the same amount of courage from everybody, in that I see no distinction.

In this story, a very good Agatha Christie type of mystery, transported into the modern era in a multi-cultural ghetto that explores the social conflicts and mores from many angles, not least the personal, the social, the political, the economic and the cultural clash angles, one of the characters, Hassan, says,

‘Fucking love, ain’t it, messing with you, makes you unable to think clear.’

And that’s about the sum of it.

Let there be light

Let there be light

For the love of a woman, a man, your children, a country, a religion, a promise of a better future;  these are all good and valid reasons for a suicide.

Question?

Now can anyone tell me a valid reason to oppose someone’s suicide?

Answers must be logically consistent.  When you’ve got them, then either reply here or write them on a piece of paper and shove them up your arse.

I really don’t care.  It’s my blog space and I’ll say what I want.

 

Somewhat Related:

You may pile up dung and call it sandalwood, but when you burn it, it will give off only the odour of dung. You may pile up a lot of great lies and call them the teachings of the Buddha, but they will never be anything but a gateway to the great citadel of the hell of incessant suffering.

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ScamVictimHelp.com, Poacher turned Gamekeeper?

Introduction

Poacher turned Gamekeeper

a gun

Poacher or Gamekeeper?

I’ve been rss following a little thread where a job-seeking homeworker has been diddled out of thousands – see Saundrak’s Blog. It seems to have close ties to Pacific Webworks et al, maybe not directly, but the Golf Course, techniques,  or something.

Read this curious comment from someone called mlwood79 that just doesn’t look right to me, following my experiences with the scammers double-bluff etc in the old Google Treasure Chest scam.

Tracing mlwood79?

It’s not hard and doesn’t take long.  Despite not leaving any open invitation, Matt Wood leaves his email and phone number here, http://mlwood79.blogspot.co.uk/, a single post on the free blogger web.

A similar search on the 877-725-8882 phone number pulls out something interesting.  For instance, there are these postings on various consumer/scam forums:

www.scamvictimhelp.com

Very quickly we end up at scamvictimhelp.com from these few links above.  They provide a fair bit of information.

225/365 - scam

Another Scam or Two?

scamvictimhelp.com is a very plush and professional looking site, with an opening video that put the colley-wobbles up me after my Robert G Allen experiences and the various Robert Millar video offerings. (see here for instance).

But the wordage is re-assuring enough, textually and on the video.  They seem to be White Knights, offering help to people who’ve been scammed by the recent splurge of Google/Tree/Credit stuff.

(On the subject of White Knights, Paul at WorkAtHomeTruth has had a separate rant that hints at the scammer’s double-bluffing we’ve previously observed.  Their new twists around old habits know no bounds!  Either that or piss-poor altruism.)  Who was it who said ‘eternal vigilance’?

Q. So Who are ScamVictimHelp.com?

A. Now there’s the rub!  USA folks will know the 877 phone number is non-geographic and a free-phone (see phone info).  The contact on the website is (like this one), a simple contact form.  So I don’t know where they are, from that! Hmm?

Q. So WHOIS ScamvictimHelp.com?

A. And there’s another rub!  Their name is ‘protected’ just like the scammers’, by Domains by Proxy, Inc. So I don’t know where they are from that! This facility is ‘supposed’ to be used to “protect individuals from spam”, but the reality for me is that,

if someone, offering a service, wants to hide their identity, then they’re up to no good!!!

Other Inconsistencies

So we see they want to hide themselves.   But from examining their website and some other forum postings (a weird way to advertise, is it not?), I’ve got three email contacts for the company:

  • Matt Wood – [email protected]
  • via spam reported here[email protected]
  • same email address is on http://www.scamvictimhelp.com/ homepage
  • Tyler Jackson – [email protected]

This means that they’re hiding their detail not because they don’t want to be spammed, but for another reason

By the way, I use email obfuscation on this website provided by Mike Greenberg ‘s phpEnkoder, which makes it almost impossible for content scraping robots to harvest email addresses for spam purposes.  Many sites use a similar technique….   but looking at their page source code, scamvictimhelp just use the simple mailto: html directive, which means that their email addresses can be harvested, but since the main one arrived in someone’s spam anyway, they don’t care about that, obviously.

You’ve got to really question their motives now…

Q. But What About ScamVictimHelp.com?

A. Well the best thing is to quote their stuff straight from their ‘About’ page (my emphasis below)…

We at ScamVictimHelp.com have a combined work experience of 25 years in the work-from-home/home based business industry. We have owned and operated back end telesales call centers for the majority of those years. Selling products, services, and personal coaching, designed to teach people how to make money from home through the internet, vending, stock market investing, real estate, and everything else in between. In which, we generated over 30 million dollars in sales revenue.

So they are a sales force organisation!  And I still don’t know where they are from that! Like I said at the beginning, poacher turned gamekeeper?  hmm…?  (Ironically, my original hook into this, Saundrak,  was because she was conned by a ‘personal coaching service’!!)

The best bit is in their very short Terms page.  Basically, they’ve stripped out all the reams of disclaimers and obfuscated money arrangements from the usual scammer T&Cs, and said that if you do happen to take up an offer from the website, all the results are from your work, and they can’t be blamed for anything…   the key scammer phrase of ‘opportunity seeker’ also pops up, like a bent penny.   Look! ….here’s what they say, so make up your own mind:

Any business opportunity related programs approved or recommended by Scam Victim Help.com, LLC on this site still require a sincere effort and patience on the part of the opportunity seeker. Since your results depend on the effort you apply to your business; individual results may vary

And I still don’t know where they are from that! Is this still poacher turned gamekeeper?  hmmm…?

Conclusion

If you’ve read some of the links listed above, you’ll have gathered that there’s a lot of uncertainty about this company.  Currently, from my limited research, no-one seems prepared to say right out that they’re up to no good.

But for my money, unless I start seeing some very positive reports and a lot more openness, I’d need a very large bargepole before I’d approach them.  Now where do you get barge-poles…?  Ha Ha.

Update 3 Nov 2009

Send in the Clones

Send in the Clones

The Vowells mentioned in the comments below have a host of businesses and put a lot into their local community.  Apart from the permanently dead car sales place previously at http://www.stgeorgechamber.com/New%20Members/executive.car.sales.htm, they have oil wells in Texas and a never-ending supply of internet-based ideas, like we’ve found.  Their former business www.oilinvestorsonline.com seems to be no more, at least in the internet world.

Whois Capital Energy Corp

Whois Capital Energy Corp

Capital Energy Corp is still going though, and, unusually, unlike the St George Runners Baseball team who’ve cloaked their identity behind DomainsByProxy, are still visible to a WHOIS query!

Whois Intelligent Marketing

Whois Intelligent Marketing

Curiously, since I checked a month or two back on the Baseball website, a lot of contact details have disappeared from the website.  I can understand the Vowell’s reasons….

But hey-ho.  There’s another Todd Vowell at a company called www.intelligentmarketing.com, in Cally-Forny-I-A!  But y’know, it may not be the same guy (Paul at WorkAtHomeTruth always treats such info with circumspection as he says in the comments below), but it’s quite a co-incidence, especially since my OpenDNS blocked the website right off because it’s classified as “Adware”!

Use OpenDNS
Same as this link here about a business disagreement…

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Chipping or Chopping: Phorm, Google and The Erosion of Privacy

The acknowledged founder of the World Wide Web, Sir Tim Berners-Lee, created the idea and much of the system that allows information to be shared, from the web page, by hyper-links, across the globe.  His was a basically altruistic idea.

Sir Tim Berners-LeeBrilliantly, it has brought disparate peoples together in hitherto unforeseen ways.  Anyone (like me), can place a link on a page to help further the cause of knowledge spreading.  It saves research time, the key phrase being “the semantic linking of information”.  Many people add links for purely altruistic reasons – others to promote and further a cause, say.  Whatever;  you must follow a link –   it’s the user’s choice.

But commercial organisations  always act in their own interests.

In parliament yesterday, in a specially invited debate, Sir Tim and the spy-ware promoter CEO of Phorm clashed.  Phorm (who had previously secretly tracked web user habits last year with the connivance of BT, just like their previous spyware offering) say it’s all good and will help advertisers and consumers.  Berners-Lee says it’s all bad because we, as people, have no idea what happens to our information.  It’s like CCTV and ID Cards following you everywhere.  You have no choice!

And Berners-Lee is right!

BTW, Google is also following suit with their plans for behavioural advertising!  Their “do no harm” mantra is looking very, very thin now.  (I’m seriously looking at their adsense for usage on this website right now).

Data is data is data.  It sits in a box, waiting to be used.  The Phorm data is intercepted by ISPs (like BT etc).  It can sit in their box.  How do you tell?  How do you know where it is?  Have you tried to ask BT what they hold in their box on you?  Most people haven’t a clue what data is held or what it looks like until it is lost and appears on a train or car park or the internet.  Then they’re worried!  H.M. Government insists that all connection records to be kept by ISPs now as part of the anti-terror hype.  What happens to it?  Do you believe the answer if you ask and get a reply?

Whenever a commercial or government organization says “safeguards are in place” blah, blah, blah – you must check what their previous actions have been.  In this light, Phorm has bad form! Phorm (in whatever incarnation) and their boss Kent Ertugrul have a catalogue of dodgy dealingsErtugrul’s CV lists his previous ‘achievments’ as working for the loser banks that have dumped the world into this current financial crisis!  His team, which includes several recent additions from the world of spiv gambling bankers and is composed almost entirely of bankers and salespeople, specialises “in creating and developing technology to enhance social interaction”!

All I can say is that I’ve never heard spying called social interaction before….

Tim Berners-Lee’s actions are well known.  His original concept is summed up in an early web page here.   So who would you believe is right in the debate?  The philanthropist or the spiv?

This is all part of the chipping away at all our personal freedoms.  Like ID Cards, lost government and DVLA data discs, CCTV cameras on every corner ( – but no right to take photographs);  the whole thing is now a wholesale chopping at our freedoms.  It’s not a chip, chip, chip any more.  It’s Chop, Chop, CHOP!

And then they’re gone.

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