Oh What a tangled web we weave…
Back on May 1st I checked out this particular morph of the Google Money Bollox Kit Chest Scheme Plan… See here. I just had to show it because of the naff spelling and wordage, plus the inconsistencies in the text and graphics, and company name changes.
Normal
Of course, I’ve now realised that this is all totally normal and is done on purpose to keep Propellor heads busy.. At the time, the penultimate link in the chain of signing up, was:
So I thought I’d check if it still worked, it being a “secure” connection with session ID, and myself having been through several incarnations of Firefox as well as frequent cache and cookie clearances….
Copyright © 2009 Google Profits™
Well I was still laughing at the dinky trademark sign when I fired up (in)s3curehost dot com. They obviously consider it something worth protecting!
You’ll not be surprised to know that s3curehost.com still exists (so much for security and session IDs?). I’m actually surprised, in a small way, that they still keep pumping this stuff out. A Whois shows that s3curehost.com is “IntelliPay, Inc.” a.k.a. “Pacific WebWorks, Inc.” who we’ve already looked at in Salt Lake City on the original Google Treasure Chest – It’s a Scam and a Half posting.
The “Google Profits” web-page has changed slightly, but the incompetent spelling and characteristic inconsistency is reassuringly still there!
It’s to good… Earn $978 a day… Google Profits – eAuction, which one is it?
I left my “qualifying” to another day, so I haven’t found out if I’m ‘eligable’ yet.
Pacific Web Works
There are two things of note about this business, apart from the “Microsoft Certified Partner” logo. [added 26/10/2009: Matt at scamtimes.com has checked out the claim to be valid here in this comment below. However, it seems very easy to get this ‘logo’ certification.]
- The phone number at the contact page here: http://web.archive.org/web/20100507231016/https://www.pacificwebworks.com:80/contact_pweb.htm, which is:
230 West 400 South 1st Floor
Salt Lake City, UT 84101
phone: 801-578-9020
fax: 801-578-9019 - It’s business is an integrated solution for other internet based businesses – my description(SP).
At first glance it’s a normal business for this line of work. Here’s what they say about themselves and their custom software suite:
- They have “assembled a staff of professional trainers, coaches and support specialists”
- They have “built a state-of-the-art data center” which takes “care of everything, including hosting, manpower, and technical details”
- They provide “Tools for creating, managing and maintaining a web site”.
- They provide “Electronic business tools, including storefront hosting, shopping cart and Internet payment systems.”.
- They provide “Internet Marketing tools, including automated customer database, survey, and e-mail marketing tools.”.
So far so good. And the database – that must be where all the contacts are kept, securely, private?
Now check that telephone number again. It was the 9020 that did it! Like primeval intelligence, it’s come back from the depths of my mind.
It’s listed as the main contact point for Google Treasure Chest, etc, many times. See here and here for two of my posts. Now check this google search for the phone number 801-578-9020.
There are 1780 results, nearly all are complaints about being ripped-off or scammed.
Another word for rip-off or scam is the legal term, theft.
Conclusion
Pacific Webworks are still in business – in fact, business is booming and they are reported to be in the top 40 Utah companies! (https://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/pacific-webworks-receives-recognition,890942.shtml). I’m not sure who this lot are doing the reporting, but I can guess the connections…(added 3/3/10: Link to Earth Times removed. This ‘business’ contains several puffs for PWW. Like most dodgy websites, it’s domain WHOIS is hidden, by Domains by Proxy, again! – SP)
This industrial resource, http://resources.bnet.com/topic/pacific+webworks+inc..html, shows that the company had sales >$9m last year for its 34 employees. This is very interesting! The same source shows, on this page, that profits are doubling at the company this year.
This is good news for all the people ripped off by Eborn et al.
Because the company, having exactly the same phone number as the main protagonists in the Google Treasure Chest scams, now cannot fail to be connected by the FTC in their investigations and imminent court cases.
And from what I recall from the closure of the call centre, is that 200 employees lost their jobs. This is the same call centre that had 801-578-9020 as the contact number! It was people working at the call centre who said that 200 people worked there(see https://www.topix.net/forum/source/fox13now/T28A5BU37IS57DC8C/p3).
So there isn’t just a partial business relationship between Pacific Webworks and one or more plaintiffs mentioned in the FTC charges, they are intimately connected.
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